New and used RAM trucks for sale near Pendleton, IN
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Diesel Gray / Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- D2522
- VIN
- 1C6RR6GGXRS123042
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ray Skillman Northeast GMCReviews
Ray Skillman Northeast GMC review
It started when Matt saw me drive in to the service bay and walked over to greet me with a smile. I had a question about our navigation screen that honestly was driving me nuts—he showed me how to fix it in a jiffy. We were in for a simple oil change, but Matt also after checking our tires warned us that new tires would be coming due and provided a few estimates so we could prepare for that upcoming expense. We always feel special at Skillman because of members like Matt.
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$48,667
Est. $888/mo All American Chevrolet
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Diesel Gray/Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Cummins 6.7L I-6 direct injection, VVT intercooled turbo, diesel
- Stock #
- PUA339255
- VIN
- 3C63R3HL1RG339255
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
All American ChevroletReviews
2024 RAM 3500 review
I needed a 1 ton dually truck as I have a 34 foot Eliminator SS Continental and a 28 foot Eliminator SS race trailer, both are heavy as they are outfitted as mobile shops. We maxed the 28 out moving the shop and the truck pulled like a freight train. I have 17,000 miles on the odometer zero issues and a respectable return in fuel economy 13-14.5 considering how much in town driving we end up doing and how heavy the truck is so roughly what a 1/2 ton V8 gas truck gets. I bought the Big Horn CC 4X4 Dually with the Blackout Package body in white. The paint is good holds wax and shines nicely when clean. I got the 12" touchscreen and the Alpine 9 speaker system with the subwoofer and it is a worthy expense as it actually sounds better than the Harmon Kardon system in the wife's Durango RT Premium, she's jealous. I got 4:10:1 rear with the AISIN Transmission, I could have waited for the TorqueFlight and the additional 75 ft. Lbs of Torque with the 2025 model but I don't like experimenting with 1st year engines and Transmissions, I've had the experience. Plus we got a really great deal that with comparable options 2024 GM and Fords were more money. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one but I plan on retiring with this truck, it's a good one! The dealership and factory support are great, I've never had a problem getting anything done within reason and warranty items are no questions asked unless you chipped up your truck. These trucks don't need anymore than what they came with, @1,000 lbs. ft Torque. The post 2019 Cummins 6.7 requires synthetic oil but consider the fact that oil changes can extend two times or more of conventional oil and the benefits pay off. I would not hesitate to recommend this truck.
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$59,150
Est. $1,079/mo Ed Martin Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Cummins High Output 6.7L I-6 diesel direct injection, VVT interc
- Stock #
- 7P6025
- VIN
- 3C63R5CL8SG551692
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ed Martin Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Ed Martin Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
Mr.Conn is a really patient and not a pushy person. He did everything in his power to get me a nice vehicle and he worked his magic and made it happen.
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$19,925
Est. $363/mo Panel Craft Auto Sales
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Diesel Gray/Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic, 6-Spd
- Engine
- HEMI 6.4L V-8 VVT variable valve control, regular gasoline, engi
- Stock #
- 568560
- VIN
- 3C6UR5CJ5HG568560
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Panel Craft Auto SalesReviews
2017 RAM 2500 review
I have only had it a week but so far so good. The city mileage is pretty bad but highway is about 15 or more with the 6.4 Hemi. It seems to have plenty of power but I won't really know until I tow my trailer next month. The ride is very good especially for a HD truck and it looks great.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Diamond Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- UN512074
- VIN
- 1C6RRFFG0PN512074
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Leo ChevroletReviews
2023 RAM 1500 review
Bought a 2020 Ram 1500 Limited new and owned for 4 years. The starter went out twice under !00,000 miles so replaced 2 starters, had spark plug miss fire that had to get fixed, had exhaust manifold crack making the clicking sound upon startup, gas mileage got bad around 80,000 miles. I loved my truck but was stuck 2 where truck wouldn't start because the starter Ram uses is too small and not enough power for the start/stop and this size of engine. Also, heated seats are not hot at all. Coming from a F150 where the heated seats were incredibly hot which felt great, Ram not so much.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Diesel Gray/Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasolin
- Stock #
- JG252482
- VIN
- 3C6RR7LG4JG252482
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Xtreme MotorsReviews
Xtreme Motors review
Xtreme Motors delivered car as advertised! Great Dealership! I recently purchased a nice convertible from this dealership. I give this dealership a 5 star rating because the overall experience was positive. Starting with the fact that I am not even from this area, and they still sold the car to me from MD. The whole process from allowing a zoom call to view the car, to purchasing out of state, and finally delivery went as smoothly as expected. Car arrived in condition advertised....can't ask much more than that! Excellent dealership and I highly recommend!
2018 RAM 1500 review
I bought my 2017 Ecodiesel in April of 2018 at a significant discount from MSRP due to "Dieselgate" with VW and then modified software on these. They were held up for months so that the software could be corrected, so by the time they were available for purchase there was a massive overstock on them. With the complete re-design for the 2019 models, dealers were looking to get these moved out and offered big incentives to do so (up to $20,000 off). There have also been some recalls for a few things, but nothing that has seemed to go wrong on my vehicle, but I took it in to get everything addressed for the recalls. That being said, I haven't had any issues with the truck not working at any time and it is one of the most comfortable riding vehicles I've owned, especially on longer trips. The little diesel engine gets excellent milage on the freeway (about 28 mpg) and about 20 around town. Seats have coolers and heaters, the steering wheel also has a heater, auto start, good lumbar support, a nice sound system, "Millenium Falcon" style ice boxes under the rear passenger floor spots, and a lot of other features that even new trucks don't have. Plus I am not having to "rent" services that came in my truck like a lot of new vehicles force people into. It hauls what I need it to haul, tows what I need it to tow, and drives where I need it to go. Does what a truck should and with comfort to boot.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Maximum Steel Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.4L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- UG538606
- VIN
- 3C6UR5DJ9HG538606
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Leo ChevroletReviews
2017 RAM 2500 review
Had the truck, a Tradesman, 3-years and not a single problem with it, besides what the previous owner did. They put leveling blocks on it and big tires that made it ride like a dump truck. Plenty of power with the 6.4l. Very reliable.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- JZ1455
- VIN
- 1C6RRFFG2PN702250
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ray Skillman Mazda WestReviews
Ray Skillman Mazda West review
DYLAN IS A GODSEND. HE IS KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSONABLE AND HONEST FROM THE VERY START. WHAT I LIKE MOST ABOUT DYLAN IS THAT IS HIS WILLINGNESS TO GET THE CUSTOMER WHAT THEY WANT . I JUST PURCHASED MY THIRD VEHICLE FROM DYLAN AND HE ALSO SOLD MY DAUGHTER HER VEHICLE AS WELL. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK DYLAN. YOU ARE APPRECIATED
2023 RAM 1500 review
Love the truck But, why in the world does Ram not offer the advanced safety group (adaptive cruise, in lane guidance) and the 4 corner air suspension in after sale install kits? At this time: there are 4 - 2023 ecodiesel Rams equipped with advanced safety tech group in the ENTIRE country. There are 3 equipped with air ride. Why isn’t this more widely available?
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$63,600
MSRP $63,850
Est. $1,160/mo Ed Martin Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 6.4L V-8 VVT variable valve control, regular gasoline, engi
- Stock #
- 716943
- VIN
- 3C6UR5CJXVG390849
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ed Martin Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Ed Martin Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
So glad we went into edmartin to trade our jeep in April we weren't sure about the 2010 Nissan Rogue we were eligible for since our credit and time on the job. Cory did the job for us got us approved and in a vehicle that's a lot better than the one we traded in. Our jeep we traded was old and had a lot needing done with it no ac and with two babies we needed one with ac. About after a month the compressor for the ac went out on the Nissan we got from the dealership. Was gonna cost almost $900 and we were gonna have to pay half and that definitely wasn't possible with all our bills and on one income with two babies to come up all the sudden with it. So I had some words with cory and the dealership and cory is paying half of our half out of his discount or commission not sure he just said he was gonna pay half of our part so we only had to come up with $200 . While it's being fixed he put me in a temporary vehicle so we had a vehicle to drive. This means a lot because we were upset about having the vehicle only a little over a month and it happening but now he has done all he could to make sure we were happy and he definitely did an awesome job. I'll go back to him always for vehicles. Thank you so much for your work and dedication and awesome service. Cory Smith Jones I'll recommend people going to him.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Billet Silver Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasolin
- Stock #
- TM2446
- VIN
- 1C6RRFGG5SN741096
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Nick Dellen Chevrolet GMCReviews
2025 RAM 1500 review
I have the 2025 Ram 3.6 Crew Cab. I paid $45,000 for it in 2024 August. I traded my 2018 Tundra in that I only had a for a year. Major difference in power is noticable right off the bat. This Ram takes off very strange at times. Sometimes it feels like it has the power other times it doesnt want to move. I have the e-torque 3.6. The 5.7 Tundra had the power but I got rid of it because no dealer would fix it because the Tundra was spewing gas out the tank. The Tundra would only hold 12 gallons at most with a 38 gallon tank but I later found out the ECM was replaced and if I had known that I wouldnt of purchased the Tundra. You are now getring much less for you money with any vehicle. Any half ton with a v8 will cost you around $65,000 at the lowest price. This was 1 ton vehicle pricing pre-covid. These Ram crew cabs with a v6 should not cost any more than $40,000 at most. Its a very slow truck and doesnt feel like 305 HP but 280 HP realistically. The truck is too heavy for a 3.6 so that means more engine strain. The longevity of the engine will be questionable. The Ram definitely gets decent gas mileage but going uphill in this Ram you can feel the engine having to hit high rpm just to up an incline. The ride is smooth no doubt about it but these crew cabs need at least a 4.0 or 4.3 v6 to really get the job done.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 5.7L V-8 variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine w
- Stock #
- K120570
- VIN
- 1C6SRFHT1NN120570
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
AutoGiant USAReviews
AutoGiant USA review
Rob, our salesperson did a nice job showing us the vehicle. The pricing was fair and acceptable. The paperwork process was very quick and easy to understand. There was no pressure to purchase any additional products or warranties. Great experience!
2022 RAM 1500 review
Purchased a 2022 Laramie, RWD, Hemi 5.7L, Crew Cab with 21,000 miles. Other than no nav system, the truck is pristine. I am the 3rd owner; the other two maintained it beautifully. This V8 gets better city/hwy mileage than my for V6, 4x4, Crew Cab Nissan Frontier. I am most please with this vehicle!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Indigo / Frost
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 5.7L
- Stock #
- 3698
- VIN
- 1C6SRFHT0MN588000
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Selective MotorsReviews
Selective Motors review
Great service Sam was very helpful Nice selection of cars and had a great deal
2021 RAM 1500 review
3.6 motor experience cold wether limp mode Several times. Dealer claims no update for carburetor freeze up. Stranded on extreme cold days. Very concerned and disappointing
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$51,998
MSRP $56,780
Est. $949/mo Andy Mohr Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Zynith
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Hurricane 3L I-6 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- NR840
- VIN
- 3C6SRFGP7V4518297
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Andy Mohr Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Andy Mohr Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
Very friendly and patient staff. Brias James and Keri were very respectful as well as helpful. Financing was easy and quick. Nick took his time over the jeep app. Overall a great experience for purchase of a new vehicle.
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$36,500
Est. $666/mo Dellen Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Diesel Gray/Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 5.7L V8 Multi Displacement VVT
- Stock #
- CV026A2
- VIN
- 1C6RR7KT9RS183761
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Dellen Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Dellen Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
I have visited the service department twice in the past 3 weeks. I have found them efficient and friendly. I like their new waiting room.
2024 RAM 1500 review
The last Hemi powered Rams. I have owned a lot of trucks and my last 3 were all Ram 1500 Hemi powered. I liked the new Hurricane I6 turbo motor coming soon but also want my truck to sound like a truck. I am glad I got my 24 at the end of 2023 before I moved across the country to Texas. I have the Laramie trim level 4x4 and etorque engine. The start stop is so much smoother with the etorque system while I also enjoy that it is turned off when in tow mode. We have a Tritoon we pull behind that weights about 7,500lbs. Tows it just fine. A little more squat than I would like if I put extra supplies in the bed. However I am planning on getting airbags to assist. This is my first ram with the ram box and I love it! The dry storage is great for basic items and we use when grocery shopping every weekend. The entertainment system is good not great. Every now and then it messes us and I have to reset it. Gotta love technology but by pressing the volume and tune knob in at same time for 15 seconds it resets easily. Wireless CarPlay is great! The Harmon Kardon sound system is nice. I have a speaker rattle that the dealer is ordering a new speaker for replacement. I have had 2 recalls so far and 1 warranty visit at a local dealer. (Not the best experience) but new ownership of a large corporate owned store they just don’t seem to care. The locally owned store is now assisting me and while parts still take time it’s nice when they call you occasionally for an update vs never calling you back. My only gripe is the 23&24 ram Laramie trucks stoped. Coming with the painted fender flairs so it feels a bit naked and I got a door ding at a shopping center without that protection. (My older ram truck had it) anyway great power. Good highway fuel (20mpg not towing) I average 17mpg driving in this crazy dfw traffic. Towing it goes way down to 10-12 mpg. I averaged 11.5 driving from Ohio to Texas. Lots of tech and big interior. Looking for many years of enjoyment.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Diamond Black Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Regular Gasoline V-8 6.4 L/392
- Stock #
- 4PX5271B
- VIN
- 3C6UR5FJXNG251090
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Ed Martin Chevrolet CadillacReviews
Ed Martin Chevrolet Cadillac review
Everything was made easy and efficient, no prolonged waiting, and our salesperson Scott G. was extremely helpful.
2022 RAM 2500 review
We wound up taking our 22 ram 2500 cummins over Sonora Pass due to a computer routing error(no signs either). This was while hauling a 13,000lb. 5th wheel. Tranny got hot pulling up the east side but cooled right back down after 15 minute stop.. Brakes overheated coming down west side but able to get stopped and let them cool for 45 minutes. we made it using 4 low. do not recommend trying this but the truck performed amazingly.... wont buy another brand after this adventure. Sonora Pass is a 26% grade up and down btw
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Hydro Blue Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 5.7L V8 Multi Displacement VVT
- Stock #
- SR3824
- VIN
- 1C6SRFVT3MN667858
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Indy Auto ManReviews
Indy Auto Man review
Vic took his time with us, did not rush, and had an answer for all of the questions we, my dad and I, had. He was patient and understand my needs. He did not try to pressure or convince us into buying anything. But I fell in love with the red Audi A4 2018. I was in and out in no time and the paperwork process was swift and simple. I couldn’t be happier.
2021 RAM 1500 review
One of the best trucks I’ve ever owned. I wanted the 5.7 hemi, but wasn’t sold on the e torque. After driving it for awhile, I’m totally in love with it! 395 hp and 410 ft lbs of torque. This thing is great!!
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$51,281
MSRP $52,585
Est. $935/mo Tom O'Brien Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram - Indianapolis
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- RV026
- VIN
- 1C6RRFCG8VN569138
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Tom O'Brien Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram - IndianapolisReviews
Tom O'Brien Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram - Indianapolis review
Service was great and fast. Kept me informed along the way. I highly recommended them.
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$64,237
Est. $1,172/mo Tom O'Brien Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram - Indianapolis
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- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 14-16
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.0L I6 24V GDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- P2073
- VIN
- 1C6SRFUP4SN612305
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Tom O'Brien Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram - IndianapolisReviews
Tom O'Brien Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram - Indianapolis review
Spent a cold night in our dead truck with our dogs after having been deposited at the service bay by a tow truck after hours. When they opened at 7:30, the staff kindly welcomed us and our dogs to the lounge to warm up, quickly diagnosed the problem, fixed our pesky truck and sent us on our trip home. So, so grateful for your helpful and knowledgeable staff - we are almost thawed and making progress on our trip home…Erin, Dave and Siobhan plus Jim and Steve (the black lab boys).
2025 RAM 1500 review
I have the Tungsten trim level and it’s the ultimate luxury pickup truck! The only thing I would recommend is to have a rear seat zone heating and air conditioning system. There is not enough air flow in the rear seating.
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$44,012
Est. $803/mo Stoops Buick GMC of Muncie
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- Ext. color
- Flame Red Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Cummins 6.7L I-6 direct injection, VVT intercooled turbo, diesel
- Stock #
- UG147247
- VIN
- 3C63R3ML3JG147247
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Stoops Buick GMC of MuncieReviews
Stoops Buick GMC of Muncie review
Very efficient. I was in and out in two hours. The salesman was very informative especially since the vehicle was completely different from what my old vehicle was.
2018 RAM 3500 review
Only complaint i have is why does it take so long to make a recall.My truck is for mostly pleasure so miles are low.Its out of bumper to bumper warranty and now abs pump hcu is out and they dont have one available or will not recall it knowing its been a problem for alot of trucks!!!!! CHRYSLER YOU NEED TOO MAKE THIS RIGHT!!!! THANKS!!! ALOT OF MONEY FOR THESE VEHICLES TOO BE SO FLAWED!!!!
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$79,681
MSRP $83,960
Est. $1,454/mo Dellen Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.7L I6
- Stock #
- CV025
- VIN
- 3C63RRHL2VG398716
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Dellen Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Dellen Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
Ive worked with Dellen (Gary Chambers and team) for many years now! I had my scheduled maintenance yesterday, and every person in that place gives top notch service! From communication to customer service they are all the best! I won't go to another dealership! They are fair and honest and do not ever try to take advantage of me! I would recommend Dellen in Greenfield to anyone!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Intercooled Turbo Diesel I-6 6.7 L/408
- Stock #
- 438468C
- VIN
- 3C6UR5NL2GG265183
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Ed Martin Chevrolet CadillacReviews
Ed Martin Chevrolet Cadillac review
I’m looking for a good used suv under 5500 and I’m needing financial assistance I have 500 down please have no Transporation I know I’ve got terrible credit but I’m desperate to find a good cheap Transportaion but no one will help
2016 RAM 2500 review
This has been the most wonderful truck. On the frwy when it shifted to the lower cylinder usage, it was so quiet and gas efficient. Johns Trim Shop topped off with a $2500 package. I hate to say goodbye but am retiring.
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$69,303
MSRP $77,520
Est. $1,264/mo Andy Mohr Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
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- Ext. color
- Ceramic Gray Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Cummins High Output 6.7L I-6 direct injection, VVT intercooled t
- Stock #
- NR812
- VIN
- 3C63RRGL6VG400520
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Andy Mohr Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Andy Mohr Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
Excellent service from Mikayla in buying our new 2027 Pacifica. We love it! She was so patient and thorough, answered all of our questions, and is fantastic working with a family. Can't recommend enough!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Cummins 6.7L I6 Turbodiesel
- Stock #
- SR3806
- VIN
- 3C63R3FL0EG248605
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Indy Auto ManReviews
Indy Auto Man review
Great to deal with! They made the car buying process very easy. Would highly recommend them when purchasing a vehicle in the Indy area.
2014 RAM 3500 review
This is our 1 ton work truck. It has been very dependable. It rides like a 1 ton truck as you would expect, but it does not wear you out. Basic interior but I do have to say the stock stereo is very good!
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$56,749
Est. $1,035/mo Ed Martin Buick GMC
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- Ext. color
- Patriot Blue Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Cummins High Output 6.7L I-6 direct injection, VVT intercooled t
- Stock #
- 561653A
- VIN
- 3C63R3ML4NG181168
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Ed Martin Buick GMCReviews
Ed Martin Buick GMC review
I was having trouble with monitor showing a problem with 1 of my tire sensors & service department diagnosed the problem quickly & was able to repair without my having to make another appointment saving me making another trip for repairs. They explained what needed to be done & so far everything is working fine.
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$50,257
Est. $917/mo Andy Mohr Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
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- Ext. color
- Billet Silver Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Diesel Gray/Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Cummins 6.7L I-6 direct injection, VVT intercooled turbo, diesel
- Stock #
- PV2380
- VIN
- 3C63RRHL0RG344739
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Andy Mohr Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Andy Mohr Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
I needed some work done on my Chrysler Pacifica and Andy Mohr was great at completing the work in a very short time. They replaced the mirror on the passenger side of the car in less than 2 hours. I’m very happy with the job and the time it took . Working with Shelby was a great experience.
2024 RAM 3500 review
I have owned many trucks, Chevy, Ford and Ram, Ram is outstanding on performance and reliability. I use these trucks for work, heavy loads including excavation equipment, The high output diesel provides great power. Out performs Ford and Chevy hands down. My only complaint is cheap plastic interior parts that show wear easy. Every Ram over the years has been the same cheap plastic parts. Door panels and such mar and scratch easy from normal wear and tear. My opinion is Ram builds a real workhorse. In the past there were a lot of transmission issues, I believe they have resolved those past issues Cummins power is unbeatable and for years the trans just could not handle the power. I have noticed a big difference on the 2024 model, the trans seems to shift better and does not overheat under heavy load. There is a lot of hype about who builds the best truck, and most of that is sales driven commercials. So I give Ram a 9 out of 10 rating totally based on ownership satisfaction, performance, and long term cost of maintaining the truck.
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$57,000
Est. $1,040/mo Dellen Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Diesel Gray/Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.7L I6
- Stock #
- CT323B
- VIN
- 3C63RPGL9SG514964
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
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Dellen Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Dellen Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
Very professional and friendly! Service was done in a timely manner and complete documentation was provided.
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$60,869
MSRP $59,620
Est. $1,110/mo Ed Martin Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
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- Ext. color
- Tank
- Int. color
- X9
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 5.7L V-8 variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine w
- Stock #
- 716899
- VIN
- 1C6SRFGT3VN580122
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ed Martin Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Diesel Gray / Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- D2522
- VIN
- 1C6RR6GGXRS123042
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ray Skillman Northeast GMCReviews
Ray Skillman Northeast GMC review
It started when Matt saw me drive in to the service bay and walked over to greet me with a smile. I had a question about our navigation screen that honestly was driving me nuts—he showed me how to fix it in a jiffy. We were in for a simple oil change, but Matt also after checking our tires warned us that new tires would be coming due and provided a few estimates so we could prepare for that upcoming expense. We always feel special at Skillman because of members like Matt.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Diesel Gray/Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasolin
- Stock #
- P17147A
- VIN
- 1C6RR7LG7PS516621
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Tom Roush MazdaReviews
Tom Roush Mazda review
Although I didn't purchase a vehicle, they were willing to beat the price I negotiated with the other dealership.
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$65,663
MSRP $76,420
Est. $1,198/mo Tom O'Brien Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram - Indianapolis
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- Ext. color
- Molten Red Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.7L I6 24V DDI OHV Turbo Diesel
- Stock #
- RT141
- VIN
- 3C63R3GL9TG349413
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Tom O'Brien Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram - IndianapolisReviews
Tom O'Brien Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram - Indianapolis review
Bob in service is fantastic. Service was fast and he always kept me in the loop. What a great job. I will go there for all my car needs.
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$36,000
Est. $657/mo Ed Martin Buick GMC of Anderson
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- Ext. color
- Bright Silver Clearcoat Metallic
- Int. color
- Diesel Gray / Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.7L I6 24V DDI OHV Turbo Diesel
- Stock #
- BG3754A
- VIN
- 3C63R3CLXJG408164
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ed Martin Buick GMC of AndersonReviews
2018 RAM 3500 review
It tows my fifth wheel with ease! It is also fun to drive, as a truck guy, it is the best truck I have owned.
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$62,592
MSRP $64,215
Est. $1,142/mo Elmhurst Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Diesel Gry/Blk Deluxe Clt
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 5.7L V-8 variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine w
- Stock #
- 22206
- VIN
- 1C6SRFFT5VN589177
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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Elmhurst Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram -
$49,115
MSRP $57,250
Est. $896/mo Jack Phelan Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
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- Ext. color
- Diamond Black Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Hurricane 3L I-6 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- D9853
- VIN
- 3C6SRFGP8T4214909
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Jack Phelan Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Jack Phelan Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
Adam and Jorge and Jonathan helped with our 2 cars bought today thank you guys
2026 RAM 1500 review
I use trucks plow , haul and tow... I've owned Ford's and GM trucks as well. While the Ford were good, I've experienced that the longer durability wasn't equal to MOPAR.. I was a GM person for many years and they definitely are not an option for me any longer. The GM's I've owned seemed lighter duty, failed more often than Ford and MOPAR. This is my third MOPAR truck. The past 2 have been very reliable, 300K 259k both still on the road . My new 26 Ram only has 2500 miles on this new truck so I'm reluctant to give it an overall rate of 5 , things Ive experienced thus far.. Performance: The std in line 6 has plenty of punch to it. Milage : Around town I'm getting 21.5 recently took it on a 380 trip ,26.9 MPG although RAM still has issue with its on board MPG calculator it stated 27.9 an error of ~ 4.7% which some may think is picky , I say come on fix it! GM and Ford have it dialed in . Fix it MOPAR. Interiors is well thought out super quiet , seats are very comfortable so traveling long distances is a great experience. I still dislike that one cant order a 8 foot box on a 1500. We will see how this $78K holds up in terms of durability.. Value wise I'm totally unhappy with all brands 78K is just out of line. But then again , lots of folks buy trucks and use them for cars so when demand goes up so do prices. Value wise they out of sync with the customer