Used compact SUVs for sale near Glendora, CA
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- Ext. color
- Magnetic Force
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Theta 2.4L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable va
- Stock #
- LU280144
- VIN
- KM8J33AL9LU280144
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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AutoNation Toyota CerritosReviews
AutoNation Toyota Cerritos review
Very friendly, patience, helpful. They guide you step by steps until you get all. Finally, great service. Recommend
2020 Hyundai TUCSON review
I bought my Hyundai Tuscon 2020 in March at Curry Hyundai very good car salesman was great car runs beautiful good design plenty of room I would recommend this car to anyone
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$47,000
Est. $887/mo Glendale Dodge Chrysler Jeep RAM
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- Ext. color
- Vesuvio Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.9L V6 24V GDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- 335BBP
- VIN
- ZASPAKEV1N7D46124
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Glendale Dodge Chrysler Jeep RAMReviews
Glendale Dodge Chrysler Jeep RAM review
I received excellent service at the dealership! My salesperson was Sako and he helped me find the perfect Jeep Patriot for my daughter. He was very knowledgeable and made the buying process quick and easy. I love this dealership and the friendly people who work there plus financing was so much easier than I thought it would be! I highly recommend this dealership.
2022 Alfa Romeo Stelvio review
SuperTourer - love my 2019 Stelvio Lusso more each day. Owned it 3 years - bought with 28000 miles now at 84000! No squeaks, no rattles, no mechanical issues - drives and feels rock solid, strong, nimble, and eager to roll. The Lusso is very comfortable with posh leather seats. Does anyone else think Alfas are way underrated!?
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- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- TAN
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28339208
- VIN
- 5J8TB3H74HL017390
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax Phoenix-West ValleyReviews
CarMax Phoenix-West Valley review
I went to go see a car they had. Car looked great and drove fantastic. Also the sales rep was friendly and nice
2017 Acura RDX review
I love my Acura RDX. To me. It's like a luxury vehicle, love everything about it. If I ever got a new SUV, it would definitely be another RDX
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- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 28132297
- VIN
- 1C4HJXEN1PW619663
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
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CarMax Canoga ParkReviews
CarMax Canoga Park review
Good Experience. Good Service. Helpful Representatives. Able to answer all my questions. Assisted in transferring to Arizona Carmax.
2023 Jeep Wrangler review
First jeep was a 2 door 1988 , have owned 9 since , every generation has gotten better , after having a lifted Willys and a Mojave gladiator I decided to go for more comfort but still able to do jeep things , 23 sport S 2 door hardtop 6cly , comfortable, quiet and cool . Love the alpine sound system and the smooth quiet comfortable ride ( obviously still a jeep ) I’ve gotten 28mph on a 400 mile road trip and seem to average 25mph which it outstanding imop
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$35,864
Est. $677/mo AutoNation Acura South Bay
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- Ext. color
- Liquid Carbon Metallic
- Int. color
- Espresso
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VTEC variable valve cont
- Stock #
- PL001064
- VIN
- 5J8TC1H51PL001064
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
AutoNation Acura South BayReviews
AutoNation Acura South Bay review
Amazing service Always!! Everyone is so easy yo work with. They explain what is done clearly. They Always wash my car. I cannot imagine going anywhere else. Service is TOPS!!!!?nn
2023 Acura RDX review
We bought our 2023 Acura RDX Tech model at the end of March 2023 as a Certified Used Car. It had 13,200 miles at the time of purchase. We truly enjoy the car, but there a couple of minor issues that we hope that get resolved when we have it serviced in the near future. The window seal at the driver's door makes a whistling sound above 35 mph. There is a loud clunk that occurs when we first start the car and put it in reverse. We believe that the clunk is coming from the sunroof mechanism, not the transmission since seems coming from above the rear seats. The infotainment/navigation system is difficult and distracting to use. We were aware of the complicated infotainment system before we bought the car, and we decided we could live it. Fortunately we are able to overcome that issue by using Apple CarPlay. The car is very comfortable and handles well. Looks great. We appreciate all of the luxury features.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White Diamond Pearl
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve
- Stock #
- FL045915
- VIN
- 5J6RM4H34FL045915
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoNation Honda ValenciaReviews
AutoNation Honda Valencia review
I am a loyal return customer because of the great care and VIP treatment I received from sales rep Christian Herrera to service department, last but not least, finance department was excellent and finding a payment that worked for me.
2015 Honda CR-V review
One year and 37,000 miles later, my 2015 Honda CR-V EX-L, purchased from Bill Kay Honda, has exceeded all expectations! I bought this gem with 50,000 miles on the clock, and it's been nothing short of a dream. Dependability is the name of the game here – this car hasn't skipped a beat. Gas mileage has been consistently impressive, making both city commutes and long road trips a breeze. As expected with any vehicle of this mileage, routine repairs have been standard, but nothing out of the ordinary. The EX-L trim package adds a touch of luxury with its leather interior and upgraded features, making every drive comfortable. The spacious interior and ample cargo space have been perfect for everything from grocery runs to weekend getaways. Having finally taken the plunge into the Honda world, I now understand the rave reviews from my mechanics. This CR-V has proven its worth, and I'm a loyal Honda convert for life! I want to specifically mention the excellent service I received at Bill Kay Honda, especially from my salesman, Bert Tvrz. The sales process was smooth and transparent, and Bert went above and beyond to answer all my questions. He even called the previous owner to track down the owner's manual, which was incredibly helpful. Even a year later, I'm still thrilled with my purchase. I felt that they were honest and upfront about the car, and that is very important to me. Tip: If you're looking for a reliable, fuel-efficient, and comfortable SUV, the 2015 Honda CR-V EX-L is a fantastic choice. Regular maintenance will keep it running smoothly for years to come. And if you're in the market for a used Honda, I highly recommend checking out Bill Kay Honda and asking for Bert Tvrz!
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$37,998
Est. $717/mo AutoNation Ford Valencia
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- Ext. color
- Star White
- Int. color
- Black Onyx
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- 1-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- PMA18349
- VIN
- 3FMTK2SU1PMA18349
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
AutoNation Ford ValenciaReviews
AutoNation Ford Valencia review
I took my car in for service preventive maintenance Repairs everything went well. No surprise s in the estimated time frame things went as smoothly as expected
2023 Ford Mustang Mach-E review
My first EV car. Not sure if I love this car or the fact that it is an EV. What makes this a bit different from a Tesla is that it still reminds you of a regular car in terms of gear shifting controls and displays. My car is a premium trim, dual motor and long range battery extension, so if you get a lower trim, the experience might be slightly different.
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$26,990
Est. $510/mo AutoNation Honda Valencia
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- Ext. color
- Radiant Red Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 43-36
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve co
- Stock #
- PH715666
- VIN
- 2HKRS5H56PH715666
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoNation Honda ValenciaReviews
AutoNation Honda Valencia review
I terminated the lease on my Honda and purchase it. The dealer and Honda of America ran multiple inquiries on my credit report without my permission. Financial promised to email me copy of ALL paperwork completed and signed. A week of emails and texts and ended up receiving some of it. I was told by the salesperson the vehicle is bring washed. The car wasn't washed. Otherwise, the process was seamless.
2023 Honda CR-V Hybrid review
Going into my one year anniversary with my 2023 CR-V Hybrid Touring and is still performing like is brand new. It's very quiet and it's giving me like 40 miles per gallon. I had a 2021 hybrid RAV4 and I am glad I traded in for my CR-V Hybrid. I really recommend the new CR-V Hybrid.
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$36,320
Est. $686/mo AutoNation Honda Costa Mesa
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- Ext. color
- Solar Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 43-36
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve co
- Stock #
- TL011708
- VIN
- 5J6RS5H54TL011708
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoNation Honda Costa MesaReviews
AutoNation Honda Costa Mesa review
Erik Garcia was absolutely great, I love my Passport TrailSport Elite Blackout. So glad I waited for this particular model. Erik and Tabitha are awesome. Your new Finance Manager excellent. Best car shopping experience ever. I have never loved a car, now I do.
2026 Honda CR-V Hybrid review
I love this hybrid with all its safety and convenience features. It has much more pep than my old CRV and is getting 40 mpg. It is also stylish and almost luxurious. Its cargo capacity is adequate.
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$27,342
Est. $516/mo AutoNation Honda Costa Mesa
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- Ext. color
- Modern Steel Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- LH419295
- VIN
- 2HKRW1H94LH419295
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
AutoNation Honda Costa MesaReviews
AutoNation Honda Costa Mesa review
Xeymone sale representative is awsome, nice, understand my needs and easy to work with. Will refer my friends.
2020 Honda CR-V review
I love the huge interior of this! I have enough room with the seats down for all 3 Great Danes! The mileage is great and driving is very comfy. I had a rav 4, and it was ok, but it was a bit bulky, this is smaller And easier to drive around!
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$33,076
Est. $625/mo AutoNation Ford Valencia
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- Ext. color
- Shadow Black
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I3 12V PDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- SRE57044
- VIN
- 3FMCR9CN5SRE57044
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
AutoNation Ford ValenciaReviews
AutoNation Ford Valencia review
Like I said, they?re always polite. They?re fast very productive. They know what they?re doing and I don?t mind bringing my truck there. It?s always a pleasure Megan and Veronica our top-of-the-line.
2025 Ford Bronco Sport review
I have had my Bronco Sport Big Bend for 6 months now and has far exceded my expectations! It is amazing in winter conditions of snow and ice, has a great power boost race mode which amazes me since mi e has the 1.3L engine. I average 30mpg without babying it and seat comfort, space, sunroof/moonroof is great. I highly recommend this for anyone looking for a 4×4 SUV.
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$21,991
Est. $415/mo AutoNation Hyundai Valencia
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- Ext. color
- Shimmering Silver
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Smartstream 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable
- Stock #
- RH338027
- VIN
- 5NMJBCDE5RH338027
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoNation Hyundai ValenciaReviews
AutoNation Hyundai Valencia review
They had great customer service. The team was very knowledgeable and patient. I didn?t feel pressured at all like in other dealerships I had been to.
2024 Hyundai TUCSON review
There are some things worth noting. Gas mileage is not great. No where near what it says. Controls are hard to navigate and confusing but I love the phone, GPS, ride, Sirius and other safety features.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Vapor Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V MPFI DOHC Hybrid
- Stock #
- SUA69782
- VIN
- 1FMCU0E10SUA69782
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoNation Ford ValenciaReviews
AutoNation Ford Valencia review
Hands down one of the best buying experience at a dealership. Staff was polite not pushy and very helpful in finding a vehicle withing my specifications and budget requirements.
2025 Ford Escape review
Love my escape hybrid would be perfect for a couple that loves to go exploring. Best ever and love when we test drove it.. yay
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cyber Silver
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Nu 2L I-4 DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve control, regular unleaded,
- Stock #
- PU045491
- VIN
- KM8K62AB2PU045491
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoNation Hyundai ValenciaReviews
AutoNation Hyundai Valencia review
One of the easiest car purchases I've made. Provided me with excellent service and great follow up. My salesman, Moises, provided suggestions for the best way to make use of my car and the features associated with it. Thank you Danny for making sure I was well taken care of.
2023 Hyundai KONA review
Purchased the car a month ago and it does not disappoint. Has got a kick to it. Brakes are a little choppy but reliable. Inside is comfortable. Enough room and yet compact.
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$11,585
Est. $219/mo Redlands Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
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- Ext. color
- Deep Cherry Red Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed 948TE Automatic
- Engine
- Tigershark MultiAir 2.4L I-4 variable valve control, regular unl
- Stock #
- A11173A
- VIN
- 1C4PJLAB9GW312693
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Redlands Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Redlands Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
Michael Mitchell is a wonderful person to work with. Mr. Mitchell know what’s good customer service is and I’m proud to be one of his customers.
2016 Jeep Cherokee review
Was at dealership shopping and this new Jeep Cherokee Lattitude came in on transport. Wanted it the minute I saw it. Jeep dealership had ordered it custom with every option I wanted. Blackout package, V6 a true dual exhaust, sport, power everthing, 4x4 etc. The 4x4 is excellent and never failed me! Its been flawless, aftermarket tuning has turned it into a screaming black speed machine. 112,000 miles so far. No issues with anything! Would buy another if they still made this Cherokee Latitude Special! One very satisfied customer!!!
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$16,085
Est. $304/mo Redlands Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
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- Ext. color
- Bright Silver Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black Interior
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- P11215
- VIN
- 1C4BJWCG3CL214999
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Redlands Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Redlands Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
I had my Jeep in for air conditioning repair, they did a great job. Joshua Petty was very polite and explained everything they did for the vehicle. I appreciated his help very much. Thank you Joshua G. Petty
2012 Jeep Wrangler review
This is my 3rd Jeep and everyday driver. My husband bought her for me because he knew I wanted another Wrangler again. We live in Colorado, and go off-roading in the mountains; she amazes me every time! She handles in-town and highway driving great, too. I have customized her (bulbar, angry eyes grille, lift kit, etc..), which is all part of the fun!
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