Used SUVs for sale near Pala, CA
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- Ext. color
- Jet Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- R9U89172
- VIN
- 5UX43DP09R9U89172
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
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- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
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- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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BMW of CarlsbadReviews
BMW of Carlsbad review
The most pleasant place you may experience of purchasing your dream car, lovely BMW! Each time I had wonderful sense of being respected while the atmosphere was calm. BTW PJ will be your dream agent if you ask me!
2024 BMW X3 review
Only have been driving the car for a week, but it is clearly the best SUV I have experienced. My wife drives the Mercedes 300 - a fine car as well, but I have always preferred BMY engine performance and handling. The X3 is simply a pleasure to drive.
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- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- Regular Unleaded I-4 1.8 L/110
- Stock #
- NM723039
- VIN
- 3CZRU5H35NM723039
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- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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AutoNation Subaru CarlsbadReviews
2022 Honda HR-V review
Very happy with my HR-V sport model. Exterior design of the car is very nice Interior is a little small with not much room for storing things. Would not recommend this car to avery large person but for a smaller individual it is perfect, Runs well, has more pick up than I thought it would have. Based on only been driving it for 3 weeks I do recommend it.
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- Ext. color
- Green
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 29024549
- VIN
- KMUHFESB8SU241407
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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CarMax BakersfieldReviews
CarMax Bakersfield review
The buying process was long but at the end everything worked out in my absolute favor! I appreciate the amazing customer service and the help with the purchase of my very first car!!!
2025 Genesis GV80 review
Owned the GV80 for 6 months, the smaller engine is plenty. The ride is better than my 2018 Lexus rx350L. Only draw back navigation good be better.
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- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 14-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28811093
- VIN
- 1GNSKCKD4NR310554
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
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CarMax BakersfieldReviews
CarMax Bakersfield review
This is one of the largest CarMax that I've been to and they have quite a selection of cars. The salesperson was not pushy and were very friendly. The salesperson I worked with was Felicia and she was exceptionally great. I would highly recommend this dealership because of her superb customer service, knowledge of cars, and hospitality.
2022 Chevrolet Suburban review
Taylor Chevrolet took a deposit to hold the vehicle at listed price of 56k - then next day changed the price by 5k - Bait and Switch operation- I’ll be posting record conversation of their tactics to my Tik Tok channel
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Snowfall Pearl
- Int. color
- Orchid
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- RZ515329
- VIN
- 4W5KHNRL2RZ515329
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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AutoNation Toyota IrvineReviews
AutoNation Toyota Irvine review
Our sales man Adam was very friendly and accommodating and answered all our questions. Excellent customer service!
2024 Acura ZDX review
I absolutely love my 2024 Acura. It’s a well-built, stylish, and reliable vehicle that delivers excellent performance—especially with the AWD, which gives me confidence in all types of weather. The ride is smooth, the features are modern and intuitive, and it feels like it was truly designed with the driver in mind. I’ve owned several vehicles over the years, but this one stands out. I’m planning on keeping it forever! If you’re looking for a dependable and fun-to-drive car, I highly recommend the 2024 Acura.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Lava Red
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- VQ 4L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- FN653005
- VIN
- 5N1AN0NU6FN653005
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Stability Control
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AutoNation Ford TustinReviews
AutoNation Ford Tustin review
This was my very first car purchase in the United States, and I couldn't have asked for a better experience than the one I had at AutoNation Ford Tustin. Buying a car for the first time can be a little overwhelming, especially when you're still learning how everything works, but the team made the entire process feel easy and stress-free. Everyone was friendly, patient, and willing to take the time to answer my questions and explain things clearly. I purchased a 2025 Ford Mustang EcoBoost, and I'm absolutely loving it. What stood out to me most was that I never felt pressured. The staff genuinely seemed to care about helping me find the right car and making sure I felt comfortable and confident with my decision. From the first visit to driving my car home, the experience was smooth, professional, and enjoyable. The dealership was welcoming, organized, and easy to work with throughout the process. A big thank you to the AutoNation Ford Tustin team for making my first car-buying experience in the U.S. such a positive and memorable one. I would happily recommend them to anyone looking for a vehicle.
2015 Nissan Xterra review
It is a reliable vehicle I use for my field trips as a Scientific Researcher in the University. Performance and Reliability are the Hallmarks. It takes you there and Back with no worries of being left midstream.
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$14,551
Est. $253/mo AutoNation Ford Tustin
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- Ext. color
- Deep Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Black Anthracite
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-29
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3L V-6 diesel direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, in
- Stock #
- FD003039
- VIN
- WVGEP9BP0FD003039
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
AutoNation Ford TustinReviews
AutoNation Ford Tustin review
I am a return customer at Auto Nation Ford Tustin and highly recommend this dealership. No nonsense purchase experience and service department is awesome too.
2015 Volkswagen Touareg review
I've had my first-hand Diesel Touareg for 7 years now. I love her! The Touareg was bought to replace my Golf R32, and i have no regrets. She feels like driving a big Golf. LOL. The Touareg drives like a driver's car. Can't deny the quality of material used for the interior, made to last! Leather interior and panel finish barely has any traces of wear and tear (that's with this car used daily to transport 2 kids). The chrome trim of the R-Line gives this classic silhouette an elegant and polished finish. Keeping her for as long as she can keep going.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Onyx Black
- Int. color
- Alpine Umber
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 14-18
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.2L V8 16V GDI OHV
- Stock #
- 26-2637A
- VIN
- 1GKS2EKL0RR310959
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Automatic Parking
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
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Jessup Auto PlazaReviews
Jessup Auto Plaza review
Edgar was great. Knowledgeable, professional, and great communication. Ask for him at Jessup Auto Plaza! He took note of our needs and was not pushy by selling undesired inventory.
2024 GMC Yukon review
Purchased new in October 2024. Total miles driven 9,276. Just completed a 4,734.2 mile trip through 9 states. Just a pleasure to drive. My wife and I were on the road 16 days, with only 8 driving days, longest day was 674 miles. Average driving speed was about 72+ miles per hour. Seat comfort was amazing, no discomfort, great considering having 4 back surgeries. Very solid on the road with little or no driving fatigue. Performance was great. Of the total miles, about 500 were in town driving and 300 miles was in 4x4 in a snow storm coming across Northern Texas in April. Average MPG was 26.4 with my best 500mile drive at 33mpg. The diesel engine is very quiet requiring me to check the tach sometimes to be sure I had pressed the off button. Very quiet on the road as well. This is my first diesel and I would highly recommend it. Plenty of power, great fuel economy, quiet and very responsive when you need that quick acceleration. amazingly nimble for a big SUV. The adaptive cruise works great. My previous GMC was a 2009, 6.2L V8 Yukon XL. I drove that one 140K miles over 14 years with nothing but routine maintenance, a great vehicle as well. Very happy with this 2024
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magic
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.0L I6 24V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 13370
- VIN
- SC6GM1CA0SF029738
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Jessup Auto PlazaReviews
Jessup Auto Plaza review
I made an appointment for an oil change and tire rotation, despite how busy they were I was in and out in a reasonable time. Customer service reps and employees that I encountered were wonderful.
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$17,990
Est. $312/mo AutoNation INFINITI Tustin
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- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- GA648669
- VIN
- 4JGDA5GB6GA648669
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
AutoNation INFINITI TustinReviews
AutoNation INFINITI Tustin review
I purchased a 2021 Kia seltos and I love it! Robert was very helpful in the process and made it so smooth and stress free. I would highly recommend to my friends and family.
2016 Mercedes-Benz GLE-Class review
Very smooth ride. Lots of cool safety features. Good power. Good value for my money as I bought this as a CPO. Mercedes Benz financing made it easy to own.
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$26,985
Est. $468/mo AutoNation Toyota Irvine
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- Ext. color
- Polymetal Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Red
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Regular Unleaded I-4 2.5 L/152
- Stock #
- R0432869
- VIN
- JM3KFBCL5R0432869
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
AutoNation Toyota IrvineReviews
AutoNation Toyota Irvine review
Gilbert provides excellent customer service! His team is very thorough Regarding my auto maintenance needs. They offer fair reasonable prices, especially with their specials. Thank you.
2024 Mazda CX-5 review
This is my first CX-5. I love it. Previously I drove a mazda tribute which was a 6 cylinder. I was reluctant to purchase a smaller vehicle with a smaller engine, but I’ve been pleased. My only negative comment is regarding the leg room in the back seat. It’s not great but workable for most average size adults.
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$44,000
Est. $764/mo Jessup Auto Plaza
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- Ext. color
- Crystal White Tri-Coat
- Int. color
- Sedona Sauvage
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- 25-8745A
- VIN
- 1GYKNCRSXRZ701793
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Jessup Auto PlazaReviews
Jessup Auto Plaza review
Best dealer ever! Very efficient and customer service is top notch . The staff is always so friendly and professional. Every car/ truck my husband and I buy will always be with Jessup no matter what
2024 Cadillac XT5 review
3rd XT5 have had no issues with '19 & '21. Current our '24 is experiencing automatic braking and cruise control issues. The vehicle is in the shop to be fixed. This issue has caused crashes. Our experience was shocking with the system slamming on the brakes while moving. Ido hope Cadillac gets this issue corrected. We are very apprehensive when driving and will be since this occured.
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$95,945
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Est. $666/mo AutoNation INFINITI Tustin
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- Ext. color
- Celestial Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 40-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- RJ190163
- VIN
- JTEAAAAH1RJ190163
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
AutoNation INFINITI TustinReviews
AutoNation INFINITI Tustin review
Wendy, Edgar and Tim were a pleasure to work with in process buying my new car. They took care of all my needs and issues.
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$28,990
Est. $503/mo AutoNation Toyota Irvine
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- Ext. color
- Blizzard Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE/VVT-i variable valv
- Stock #
- KS324469
- VIN
- 5TDYZRFH1KS324469
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
AutoNation Toyota IrvineReviews
AutoNation Toyota Irvine review
Excellent efficient and friendly service ... the facilities were clean and well kept ... the service advisor was knowledgable and a good communicator ... it was a pleasure to have our vehicle serviced there
2019 Toyota Highlander review
I traded in my 2016 RAV4 Limited for the Highlander XLE. Primarily for the ride. We had to give up some features such as seat positioning and closeness sensors available on the Rav4. The 2019 Highlander has a V6 that is well reported on and gives us the performance we need. Our ride has definitely improved on the Highlander.
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$34,900
Est. $606/mo AutoNation INFINITI Tustin
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- Ext. color
- Glacier White
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- VC-Turbo 2L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve cont
- Stock #
- SC340735
- VIN
- 5N1AL1ER5SC340735
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
AutoNation INFINITI TustinReviews
AutoNation INFINITI Tustin review
Gabriel and his team diagnosed and repaired a problem with our Infiniti?s starter that we had been dealing with for months. He kept me informed throughout the process. It was great to see that customer service is a high priority for him and his team.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Himalayan Gray
- Int. color
- Black/Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, tw
- Stock #
- PU106618
- VIN
- KMUHCESC3PU106618
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Automatic Parking
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
AutoNation INFINITI TustinReviews
AutoNation INFINITI Tustin review
I recently purchased a 2017 Kia Sportage and was very satisfied with my salesman Hunter, he was very personable as well as professional. He also followed up with me days after the purchase ! I would definitely refer family/friends/strangers to purchase a vehicle here !
2023 Genesis GV80 review
The GV80 is extremely safe and operates smoothly, in harmony with different driver preferences. It handles perfectly in the snow and ice with different drive mode options. Looking forward to another GV80 after this one !
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