Used cars for sale in Carmichael, CA under $9,000
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Green
- Int. color
- No Color
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, regular gasoline,
- Stock #
- 916321
- VIN
- 5J6YH18746L016321
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
Dealer
Hayes Auto SalesReviews
Hayes Auto Sales review
Never made it to Hayes. Was in Sacramento and bought a car that day but before making it to Roseville. The car at Hayes is an LX and I really wanted an EX. The person I talked to there was very helpful.
2006 Honda Element review
Blah, but that's good. As aerodynamic as a toaster.With the high profile, mpg isn't spectacular. Excellent reliability plus overall versatility make it worthwhile choice. Driver seat is comfortable, but road noise detract somewhat.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Quartz White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-38
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Nu 2L I-4 DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve control, regular gasoline,
- Stock #
- KH451640
- VIN
- 5NPD74LF6KH451640
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Folsom Lake ToyotaReviews
Folsom Lake Toyota review
My 2023 Tacoma TRD Pro was due for service and Folsom Lake Toyota took care of it. I just relocated to Folsom after moving from San Diego so I decided to give Folsom Lake Toyota a chance at winning my business. The Service rep, Cole Klinkhammer, was honest and very accommodating so they have won my business. Kudos to Cole and Folsom Lake Toyota!
2019 Hyundai ELANTRA review
I recently purchased a 2019 Hyundai Elantra with about 120k miles. The price was fair and the car has been running well so far. I appreciated that they were willing to work a deal with me and hold the car while I made payments. Overall a good experience—just make sure all paperwork is clearly completed, especially for the title transfer.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 33-34
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- eCVT
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 16847
- VIN
- 4T1BB46K59U074549
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Shottenkirk Honda DavisReviews
Shottenkirk Honda Davis review
After looking online for a couple of weeks, and searching within 2 hours of the Bay Area, we decided to head for University Honda. We exchanged emails and made an appointment to meet with the internet sales reps. We arrived as schedule and had someone with us within 5 minutes. We negotiated pricing and ended up with a deal that beat anyone else within 200+ miles. No pressure sales and very earnest and straightforward about the deal. A DETAILED personalized walkthrough of the entire vehicle before we left the lot. EXTRA BONUS - we left the car at the dealership while we went to lunch and took a brief tour of Davis.
2009 Toyota Camry Hybrid review
Best car I have ever owned. Never damaged, routine maintenance kept up to date, hybrid engine get 36+ mpg. All the creature comforts including premium sound system, navagation, leather seat heaters, and dual comfort control.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 475306
- VIN
- JF2SJADC2FH475306
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
All Terrain MotorsReviews
2015 Subaru Forester review
Bought my 2015 Subaru 2.0XT Touring brand spanking new off the Subaru dealership's lot. Have owned it all this time about 9 years straight. Take care of your car with regular oil changes, servicing at recommended intervals, and your car will take care of you. Performed the required recalls during service periods. Not 1 single regret on owning this car, ever. It rides smooth and true. Had a clicking issue in the ball joints 2 years ago which Subaru fixed free of charge. Other than that, this car has been my dream machine.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice White
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Engine
- 5 Cylinder FWD Gasoline
- Stock #
- 294923
- VIN
- YV4CN592261294923
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Autos Now 4 SaleReviews
2006 Volvo XC90 review
You don't take the car with you, the car brings you, you sit in the chair, not on it. First two gears are short, which confuse people behind you, expecting to be faster away at traffic lights. But from 3rd gear on it just goes. Its like sailing a ship, tiny bit waggly but smooooooth. I own a D5, it's my second home.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Symphony Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-38
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 12831
- VIN
- 5NPD74LF7KH449282
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
KNB Motors IncReviews
KNB Motors Inc review
Murphy is best salesman will come back again highly recommend everyone looking for Murphy.Chris finance did good job too thank you so much guys!i like my honda civic
2019 Hyundai ELANTRA review
Overall the Elantra is a great commuter car. It has been reliable. We consistently average 35 to 40 mpg with mostly highway driving. The seats are comfortable.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- RUBY RED TINTED CLEARCOAT
- Int. color
- MEDIUM LIGHT STONE
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable
- Stock #
- JU18411AA
- VIN
- 3FA6P0H98HR142901
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Jidd Motors MitsubishiReviews
Jidd Motors Mitsubishi review
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Excellent Communication and Professionalism!"I had a fantastic experience interacting with the team at Jidd Motors while looking for a vehicle for my daughter. From the very first inquiry, their response to my information requests about the car was incredibly quick, detailed, and professional.Natalie in communication was excellent—she kept me updated every step of the way and was completely upfront and honest about the vehicle's status before we made the long 2-hour drive out to the lot. Even though the specific car we were tracking wound up selling right after the busy holiday weekend, I deeply appreciated their honesty and high-level customer service. They saved us a wasted trip and treated us with total respect over text. I would highly recommend reaching out to them if you value great communication!"
2017 Ford Fusion review
The Ford Fusion SE FWD has proved itself to be a solid choice. It is reliable in stop-and-go traffic and is nimble enough to overtake other cars on highways. It is also quite comfortable, although the headrest is quite uncomfortably placed. The suspension absorbs most of the road's vibrations. When turned on at lower speeds, the motor can be louder than expected, but the transition between electric and ICE power is quite smooth. The design is aggressive, and it looks quite good. The car is also reliable, and parts aren't hard to find. The infotainment system, however, is not as sophisticated as expected, but not in a pleasant way. Overall, I would still recommend the car; it's practical, reliable, and nimble.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Ice Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 33566U
- VIN
- 1G1ZE5E03CF128046
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Stockton HondaReviews
Stockton Honda review
Mike Solari at Stockton Honda is amazing! He always takes care my needs. He is kind, caring, and professional and always makes sure I am aware and abreast of anything happening regarding the status of my vehicle. I am so grateful he is there!!!
2012 Chevrolet Malibu review
Bought this car new in 2012. Just quit driving it with 373400 miles. Only replaced the water pump. Transmission was never touched, fuel pump, alternator, heat, ac still work and original. Maybe I was extremely lucky but this car was awesome.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.2L I6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- S251087LA
- VIN
- YV4940BL0B1103285
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Fairfield SubaruReviews
Fairfield Subaru review
We were led to Fairfield Subaru through the Costco car buying program. Our sales representative was Jeff, and he answered all of our questions. It was a great experience and we really like our new Forester.
2011 Volvo XC70 review
Great design with the Cross Country XC70 all wheel drive. We have owned many Volvo wagons for many years. We did compare to the Subaru Outback, which is an excellent all wheel drive wagon, but found the Volvo fit and finish and overall ergonomics to be superior.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue Onyx
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.8L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- S26014LA
- VIN
- 3N1BC1CPXCK807527
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Fairfield SubaruReviews
Fairfield Subaru review
A Diamond in the Rough! Exceptional Service and Honesty from Donald Myers at Fairfield Subaru! My wife and I are now proud owners of a new 2025 Subaru Forester Hybrid Touring (River Rock Pearl Two Tone), thanks to the incredible efforts of Donald Myers at Fairfield Subaru. It was a much-needed surprise for my wife, whose car was recently totaled. She's always dreamed of a Subaru, and this past Sunday, Don made that dream a reality, exceeding all expectations. Our journey was initially frustrating. Our first attempt at Albany Subaru ended with an inexplicable $15,000 price hike upon arrival. They made us feel like we were wasting their time for not paying this huge markup. That, plus a Napa dealer selling a car from under us after starting paperwork, left us wary of dealership games. As a former car salesman, I know these tactics and just wanted an honest, respectful experience. Finding the new Forester Hybrid in my wife's preferred River Rock Pearl was incredibly difficult due to high demand. We'd almost resigned ourselves to a gas version, placing a deposit on an incoming silver model at Fairfield Subaru with Don. From our first interaction, Don was a pleasure – experienced, knowledgeable, and not pushy. I immediately felt I could trust him. Weeks later, I told Don my wife truly desired the River Rock Pearl. Don immediately found that exact Hybrid Touring incoming, unlisted online! We eagerly switched our deposit. Crucially, Don cleared it with his manager first, given the car's high demand. He then transparently explained a fair markup reflecting supply/demand. As a business owner, I respected this straightforwardness; businesses must be viable to serve customers and support their teams. Best of all, the price Don quoted was exactly what we paid. No surprises or games – just pure honesty. Don is a salesman of true character. The Forester arrived a week early, which was fantastic, but my wife was out of town. Given our past negative experiences, we were anxious the car might be sold, as our "reserve" was verbal. I also couldn't get from Santa Rosa to Fairfield that Sunday. Don then went truly above and beyond. He spent Saturday helping me with remote paperwork. Then, to ensure I could retrieve the car and surprise my wife, Don offered to drive an hour to Santa Rosa to pick me up! I was floored and initially declined, not wanting to impose. He then immediately offered an Uber or Lyft. This dedication is almost unheard of. Thanks to Don, when I arrived at Fairfield Subaru this past Sunday, the numbers were exactly as promised. I paid, and in under 30 minutes, was driving away. My wife's airport surprise was a success – she was overjoyed! Don even followed up the next day to ensure everything was satisfactory, testifying to his unwavering commitment. Don understood our needs and explained market realities, navigating everything perfectly with mutual respect. After bait-and-switch tactics elsewhere and a friend's harassment at Santa Rosa Subaru, Don was a complete breath of fresh air. He is a true diamond in the rough. Driving to Fairfield for Donald Myers is unequivocally worth it. Simply call and ask for him. Fairfield Subaru, Don is exceptional; his service earned you our business for life and highest recommendations. Our gratitude to Don is immense; he delivered more than a car—he provided a positive milestone for our family and restored our trust.
2012 Nissan Versa review
I own the most bear bones version and it works like a charm, with the manual 30mpg is easily achievable. Steering at low speeds feels like you are the car. Pedals are responsive and the suspension can handle just about anything. Highly recommended for a cheap daily.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Light Taupe
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-speed automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-5 DOHC, intercooled turbo, premium unleaded, engine with
- Stock #
- CP95143
- VIN
- YV1LZ5647W2489966
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Exterior
- Roof Rack
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Fairfield ChevroletReviews
Fairfield Chevrolet review
Sophia in service was very helpful, sweet, and courteous. Got me in and out very fast for my appointment. Also provided me an excellent service! Customer service & communication is very outstanding here.
1998 Volvo V70 review
Have the AWD model with the 2.4 turbo, there is no rust on this car now 23 years old, everything still works 179,00 miles. 1998 has side airbags, heated seats, heated mirrors, a beast in the snow. This is the last year Swedish owned, will keep until it dies.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gold
- Int. color
- tan
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-speed automatic
- Engine
- 3L I-6 regular unleaded, engine with 177HP
- Stock #
- S26380A
- VIN
- WDBEA30D2NB703584
Features
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Fairfield ChevroletReviews
Fairfield Chevrolet review
Great service, excellent communication. Aurelia took great care of my Volt. It was very easy to make the appointment using their on-line tools.
1992 Mercedes-Benz E-Class review
I have owned 3 W 124 series MB. The Bruno Sacco design is to this day, timeless. The best generation of Mercedes...when the engineers had their say, not the marketing people. Quality was everywhere with these cars
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Vehicle Information
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-speed automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, regular gasoline,
- Stock #
- S26428B
- VIN
- 3CZRE3H57AG700034
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Fairfield ChevroletReviews
Fairfield Chevrolet review
Working with Jorge was really awesome! I told him what I wanted and he made it happen with no hassle, no negotiation for 3hrs. Straight hassle free
2010 Honda CR-V review
We have owned our CRV for close to 10 years now. From 65k miles to 192k. The A/c went out years ago and no problem since fixing it. Replaced the alternator at maybe 160k. That’s it. They are not fast. We get about 23mpg combined. It’s the best car we have ever owned as far as reliability and function. Comfortable with a large trunk. Some may start to consume a little oil, just add a bottle of ring seal once or twice a year. Great car
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black Granite Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black/ Titanium
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-speed automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 2.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- 260170B
- VIN
- 1G11B5SA2DF315069
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Fairfield ChevroletReviews
Fairfield Chevrolet review
Highly appreciate Sophia’s sweet and polite service. Very well informed and courteous. Easy to work with and a quick service for my Silverado.
2013 Chevrolet Malibu review
I have owned the car for about 15 months. It is a good car. There is an issue with burning a little oil. This is a known issue. I almost traded it in when I realized the oil consumption issue, but I stuck with it. I add almost a quote every two gas fill ups. I purchased it with 62,000 miles. I am a salesman and I put nearly 30,000 miles on it in the past 15 mos. Mostly highway. I had to repack the bearings in the rear wheels. This set me back about $1,200. Not good. Other than that, the car has been fine. I plan on driving it another year.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Super Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- P33556
- VIN
- JN8AZ1MU5BW065458
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Stockton HondaReviews
Stockton Honda review
Best Customer Service I've ever experienced. From the Floor Sales person to the General Manager, this is one top notch team. Personable, caring- truly treated my wife and kids as Family.
2011 Nissan Murano review
I bought my 2011 murano in 2023. It has 134,000 miles on her. I replaced a/c compressor and alternator. About 800 dollars in total. Normal for a car that's older. But other than that smooth ride inside is comfy. Lots of extras. Paint is a,little sensitive. But very reliable.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Glacier Pearl
- Int. color
- Light Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- 024621BP
- VIN
- JN1AZ0CP6CT024621
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
Dealer
Nissan of StocktonReviews
2012 Nissan Leaf review
I am in the market soon for a used Nissan Leaf i have checked out how i can refurbish the battery packs over time and slowly bring back the range spending 200 a month buying the refurbished battery packs on ebay for 50 bucks each .. 4 a month and in a year you will have a brand new battery for a lot less than dealers or repair shops will charge you.. it is something YOU can do with a volt meter and a wrench ..
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Streak Mica
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 4-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.8L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- S251090A
- VIN
- JTKKU10428J020433
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Fairfield SubaruReviews
Fairfield Subaru review
Tony Richardson in the sales was very courteous and helpful,very knowledgeable I will definitely be back and will tell family and friends. Thank you
2008 Scion xD review
Best car I have ever had ,I bought it 9yrs ago not 1 problem till now and the brake system has gone crazy been trying to fix it for 8 months,replaced all parts still no brakes! I'm so broken hearted about it,I love this little car
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Super Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- VQ 4L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 26834D
- VIN
- 5N1AR18U99C609585
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Pioneer MotorsReviews
Pioneer Motors review
Keith was the best, he made purchasing easy and explained everything as we went along, no pressure. This is our second car from him and it won't be the last. Pioneer Motors is a great place to buy a great car. Thanks!
2009 Nissan Pathfinder review
just past insection all is well there,, i thought i put new brakes and rotors a couple tears ago. but i was wrong , i put front braks and rotors and rear springs, no big deal but do i pu another 450 bucks in back breaks, i didnt rotatate tires on last oil change so i fell the front pulling against each other, so rotate tires and breaks and rotors and keep it,, the used truck market around her is CRAZY 150K 2013 S for 25995; than tell you your has too many miles.. people are walking away thousands upside down.. the truck market will drop, as gas goes up;; i will keep yiu posted
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Dark Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.4L V-6 regular gasoline, engine with 185HP
- Stock #
- 27001D
- VIN
- 2CNDL13F076009602
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Stability Control
Dealer
Pioneer MotorsReviews
Pioneer Motors review
I recently purchased a car from Pioneer Motors and had a great experience. The staff was friendly and knowledgeable, and they helped me find the perfect car for my needs. I would highly recommend Pioneer Motors to anyone in the market for a used car.
2007 Chevrolet Equinox review
I’ve been for 13 years or 14 tires one battery brakes nothing else broke very very good car well SUV I buy one I have 100,000 on mine and I bet y’all get another hundred thousand
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