Used Chevrolet Trax for sale in Pleasanton, CA
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Fountain Blue
- Int. color
- Jet Black With Red Accents
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Ecotec 1.2L I-3 direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve contr
- Stock #
- H5556
- VIN
- KL77LJE24RC154645
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Team Volkswagen of HaywardReviews
Team Volkswagen of Hayward review
I am very happy with the service and the car . I would definitely recommend team VW of Hayward
2024 Chevrolet Trax review
The car is good, comfortable and good ongas. My only concern are the wiring to the audio and the screen. I have started the engine and the screen goes blank or gets stuck even when I turn the screen and music off. Also the base comes in wiener it wants and just fades out eventually. But when you want it to work it doesn’t. Also the automatic engine on/ off button. I leave the button off majority of the time but the engine still restarts when the button is turned off.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Mosaic Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black/Gray w/Red Accents
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Ecotec 1.2L I-3 direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve contr
- Stock #
- P18243
- VIN
- KL77LGE28RC075305
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
One Toyota Of OaklandReviews
One Toyota Of Oakland review
Jimmy Tu, who worked with me, was very pleasant, knowledgeable, and helpful. It was a pleasure to work with him.
2024 Chevrolet Trax review
Had this LT for a year now and it has been very nice. Great gas mileage and seems to get just a touch better on the HWY than reported. Overall a great value and good overall car in the entry level. I would recommend the LT trim as it has the nicer interior but keeps the price point down. It packs a ton of features that you don’t expect from market segment. Also gives you a lot more room than you expect, very comfortable for 4 people with no problems.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 29001032
- VIN
- KL77LGEP5TC176532
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
Dealer
CarMax OntarioReviews
CarMax Ontario review
GREAT BUYING EXPERIENCE, SALESMAN ANTONIO WAS GOOD AND FUN, HE TOOK MY BARBS AND KIDDING IN STRIDE. RONICE THE GAL THAT DOES THE PAPER WORK HAS A GREAT PERSONALITY, SHE COULD TAKE MY KIDDING AND FIRE BACK A COMEBACK, HAD A GREAT HANDSHAKE. ONLY PROBLEM, DOING THE PAPERWORK TOOK TOO LONG, I PRESUME BECAUSE QUITE A FEW CARS WERE SOLD THAT DAY
2026 Chevrolet Trax review
The windows seem at times not to operate at all. Very annoying. Unsatisfactory. I will be calling again on the reason. At this time its the only issue.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 28511520
- VIN
- 3GNCJLSB6KL355441
Features
- Convenience
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
Dealer
CarMax PuyallupReviews
CarMax Puyallup review
Great salesman that helped us! He was very knowledgeable about the product there. Great experience!
2019 Chevrolet Trax review
I've had my Trax for many years now, bought it slightly used with only 30,000 miles on it. Now with 80,000 on that engine and I haven't really had a problem with it. It's decent in the snow, a little slower on the highway as it is slow to accelerate up to speed (not really a huge issue for me). This car can take a beating pretty well and keep going as I had blown tire while on the highway and drove into a ditch. I was able to get the car out of it and park on the side of the road until help arrived.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Mosaic Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 1.4L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, intercooled turbo,
- Stock #
- LB043005STK
- VIN
- KL7CJKSB0LB043005
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
DriveTime of ModestoReviews
DriveTime of Modesto review
Ryan Dutt we enjoyed dealing with you and the staff in Modesto. We found what we were looking for and at a great price and the car packages that go in to the packages quoted. Everyone in the office were very kind and knowledgeable. Thank You
2020 Chevrolet Trax review
This is my first crossover. I've been a truck and SUV person for about 20 years. When my truck was stolen and totaled, I bought this car used with 84k miles on it. The first week I had it the water pump went out, I kid you not. Not good so far, huh? The good thing is the car told me " car overheating, idle engine." My mechanic says newer vehicles are made to warn you before overheating causes damage to the engine. Thank God. I like the car, I'm actually starting to love the car. Trunk space is minimal, seats arent the most comfortable, I miss having a center storage space, and a passenger armrest would have been nice. The radio is kind of small to be tinkering with while driving, and I wish Android auto was wireless with built-in wifi (newer models have this) but the steering wheel controls help me overlook this minor inconvenience. This car is the only car I looked at with all the options I wanted for this year and price: remote start, extra CLEAR backup camera, push start, power driver seat AND park assist which alot of cars are phasing out these days in favor of things manufacturers believe consumers find more desirable. The blind spot indicators and cross traffic warning is nice as well and the ac blows freezing cold. You really get lots of bang for your buck. Oh and I was surprised by how well it handles bumps in the road, my last vehicle made me seasick going over those big speed bumps, not this car, it's extra smooth. I can't buy large hauls at rummage sales or thrift stores anymore because there's not enough space to haul them home, but there's plenty of room for me and the grandkids. I really wasn't financially prepared to buy a car right now and couldn't afford to buy brand new. But TBH, I find this model year of this car prettier than the new ones and overall am really pleased with my purchase. I'm getting older and this will probably be the last car I'll ever own or drive and I'm glad it was this one. Thank you Chevrolet.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Harvest Bronze Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black w/Blue Accents
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Ecotec 1.2L I-3 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable va
- Stock #
- 3143P
- VIN
- KL77LHE29RC224374
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Abel ChevroletReviews
Abel Chevrolet review
My technician quickly diagnosed the problem, FedEx the parts needed so that he could perform the repairs as soon as possible, and worked with very difficult insurance adjusters. He did an excellent job. I’m fixing my car in an efficient and professional manner. I highly recommend he will Abel Chevrolet.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Ice Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-SPEED AUTOMATIC
- Engine
- 1.4L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve control, int
- Stock #
- NU10781
- VIN
- KL7CJNSM4NB512456
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Central Valley NissanReviews
Central Valley Nissan review
My parents were looking for a car for me and Teresa Jimenez was the one who helped us out. She helped with the purchase of my Nissan Kicks and was very kind and patient and worked with us every step of the way until a deal could be made. Thank you so much for your help and Central Valley Nissan for always providing excellent service!
2022 Chevrolet Trax review
Chevy Trax is the best car ever! I have a dark blue metal flake and it is beautiful. I don't know why people gripe about the motor noise. Trax has no motor noise! Good gas mileage. I love the way it sits up high it's fun to drive. I would never drive anything but my Trax. I recommend Trax to everyone!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue Glow Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black/Gray w/Blue Accents
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-speed automatic
- Engine
- Ecotec 1.2L I-3 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable va
- Stock #
- SP95043
- VIN
- KL77LFE22RC199063
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Fairfield ChevroletReviews
Fairfield Chevrolet review
Highly appreciate Sophia’s sweet and polite service. Very well informed and courteous. Easy to work with and a quick service for my Silverado.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crimson
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.2L I3 12V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- U18341
- VIN
- KL77LFE22RC235611
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Team ChevroletReviews
Team Chevrolet review
Sales person Diego was excellent and explained everything very thoroughly but the car didn’t meet our needs
2024 Chevrolet Trax review
Genuinely a fun car to drive. Packs a lot of tech for the money, and only compromises with its transmission (which can feel a bit sluggish sometimes). Bought mine new back in May, approaching 7,000 miles and still pleased with the driving experience. It's super minimalist yet has a lot of creature comforts standard that make the experience all the more enjoyable; mainly its heated seats, wireless Android auto/car play, and remote start capability (with my 1RS model I also have the heated steering wheel, a very nice addition to have in the winter). While it prioritizes a sporty look over sporty performance, it doesn't really leave you feeling like you're missing out, you can pull to overtake without feeling like you're giving the car its all. I've had a few hiccups on occasion with the infotainment center becoming unresponsive and causing static over music, but after a few minutes it corrects itself, overall the issue is a rare occasion. Lots of cargo space and a comfortable ride, this SUV was a great match for the often unpredictable roads of Michigan.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- GRAY
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 70164970
- VIN
- 3GNCJKSB0HL132508
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Backup Camera
Dealer
CarMax FairfieldReviews
CarMax Fairfield review
I loved the no hassle and great price on warranties. I would recommend CarMax to everyone.
2017 Chevrolet Trax review
A little more than 2 years ago I bought a used 2017 Chevy Trax LT AWD, with a 1.4L engine. In addition, this vehicle was in a wreck which got hit on the rear end of the vehicle. However, the vehicle was fixed before purchasing it and I bought it with a fair price, with 49k original miles. Now the Trax has 97k miles and has had his fair amount of issues. Additionally, at 60k miles the turbo was leaking antifreeze and had to replace it with the valve that was attached to it. Also, I had some minor issues on the AC controller which h I had to have those replaced, and sooner or later I'm going to have to replace the blower motor since it's making a weird sound when it's on. This vehicle has treated me good since I've been keeping up with the regular oil changes (I usually buy Mobile 1 oil and filter, advance full synthetic) and I usually change also the air filter every 15k-30k miles. Also I've done 2 tune ups with new spark plugs and coils. To be honest if yiu do the regular maintenance you won't have any issues especially the engine and transmission. Furthermore, in a couple of days I'll be replacing the break pads, and also just FYI the 1.4L engine has a timing chain, so if you do the regular oil changes it will last forever. Soon I'll be replacing the gaskets and water pump since it's about to turn 100k mikes. All in all, I give it a 4.0-4.5 overall rating, space if very bad you can't fit regular size adults in the rear seats!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black w/Blue Accents
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 1.2L I-3 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 90234
- VIN
- KL77LHEP3SC268744
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Hertz Car Sales StocktonReviews
Hertz Car Sales Stockton review
Drove 400 miles to work with people with integrity. All the associates at Hertz Car Sales Stockton are great people, truly care about the customer experience not just making the most profitable deal. George Mihai has very friendly and kind from the start. Worked late night to help get photos to me and answered all my questions the entire way. Managers Miguel and Guillermo helped get me the most out of my finance goals. The finance manager Adriana I didn’t not expect to see until the very end. I spoke to at the beginning and she gave me the complete OTD price breakdown at the beginning which was the same when I arrived which was the same at the end. No hidden or surprise add ons or mark ups. They are all stand up individuals. Worked with 10-20 people in past few weeks at other deals, had bad experience with most of them. I’d choose Hertz again because of the good, honest and hard working people at Hertz Stockton Sales
2025 Chevrolet Trax review
Bought to replace a Cruze that was a real road warrior . 2025 Trax 3 cyl does 70 mph plus on trips with 3 adults in comfort . LS model had no rear hatch cover . Bought one off FB Marketplace for $10. Dealer wanted $235. Used the rubber floor mats from the old Cruze and snapped right into place on the Trax for the winter weather . Doing more frequent oil changes because of wet belt setup . Originally wanted a Buick Envista but felt the $21200 Trax was basically the same car for thousands less .
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$16,495
Est. $310/mo Central Valley Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crimson Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-SPEED AUTOMATIC
- Engine
- 1.4L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve control, int
- Stock #
- CU10517
- VIN
- KL7CJPSM0NB541299
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Central Valley Chrysler Jeep Dodge RamReviews
Central Valley Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram review
My overall experience was good. As I soon walked into the dealership John was very attentive. I was looking for a jeep but payment was over my budget. John did anything to help me get to the budget I wanted. And he sure did! I'm greatly appreciated with all his help on getting me the car I wanted
2022 Chevrolet Trax review
Like the Auto 4 wheel drive living near Buffalo, N.Y. So far short trips only, comfortable, have the LT model good gas not fantastic, ride good because of large tires, a little stiff.
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$24,617
New 2026 Chevrolet Trax LT 
$24,624
New 2026 Chevrolet Trax LT 
$25,512
New 2026 Chevrolet Trax FWD 1RS 
$25,512
New 2026 Chevrolet Trax FWD 1RS 
$29,344
New 2026 Chevrolet Trax 2RS 
$24,531
New 2026 Chevrolet Trax LT 
$24,407
New 2026 Chevrolet Trax FWD 1RS 
$27,112
New 2026 Chevrolet Trax FWD 2RS 
$27,652
New 2026 Chevrolet Trax FWD 2RS 
$25,452
New 2026 Chevrolet Trax FWD 1RS 
$24,194
New 2026 Chevrolet Trax FWD 1RS 
$29,329
New 2026 Chevrolet Trax LT -
$20,080
Est. $377/mo Gilroy Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cayenne Orange Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black w/Red Accents
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Ecotec 1.2L I-3 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable va
- Stock #
- RC138534P
- VIN
- KL77LJE23RC138534
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Gilroy Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black w/Yellow Accents
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-speed automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 1.2L I-3 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- 260140L
- VIN
- KL77LKEP0TC068869
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Fairfield ChevroletReviews
Fairfield Chevrolet review
Sophia, Aurelio, and Sayed were very accommodating with my schedule and provided an excellent A1 service for me and my Silverado 3500.
2026 Chevrolet Trax review
What an amazing car the Trax RS is , and it get great gas milage and very roomy inside, and it also very sporty looking!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Jet Black/Gray w/Blue Accents
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Ecotec 1.2L I-3 direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve contr
- Stock #
- 3165P
- VIN
- KL77LFE2XRC137135
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Abel ChevroletReviews
Abel Chevrolet review
My experience was very good at this dealership. They were very professional. They weren’t pushy. They explained everything very helpful. I had a very enjoyable experience.
2024 Chevrolet Trax review
I love my Chevy Trax I bought it in 2023 its a 2024 it drives good get awesome gas mileage drove from Oregon to Oklahoma and back and one more time to Oklahoma no brake dows yes its lower to the crowd but for me its perfect to get in and out It has a lot of room in back seat and back of car for shopping It only hat one problem the Moniterscreen whent out but the Recall fixt it
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sterling Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black w/Blue Accents
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 1.2L I-3 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 90247
- VIN
- KL77LHEP9SC269347
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Hertz Car Sales StocktonReviews
Hertz Car Sales Stockton review
I bought the car sight unseen (never done this before) Had the car delivered to my house. Johnny & Heather were great! Only negative was I had to follow up with calls because I guess they were busy, but otherwise so far so good!
2025 Chevrolet Trax review
Great car overall. Could use a little more pep. But for what the car is intended, as a good gas mileage low priced car, it’s hard to beat.
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