Used cars for sale near Effort, PA
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- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Silica
- Int. color
- Gray
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.0 L
- Stock #
- 14680A
- VIN
- JF2GUABC5R8292695
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Fairway SubaruReviews
Fairway Subaru review
OUTSTANDING in EVERY WAY POSSIBLE!!! From shopping for vehicles to delivery, FAIRWAY SUBARU afforded us excellence with ALL aspects of ownership of our two new Foresters!!! BUY HERE!!!
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- Ext. color
- Magnetite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.0 L
- Stock #
- 14727A
- VIN
- JF2GUADC8RH352322
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Fairway SubaruReviews
Fairway Subaru review
I have purchased two cars from Fairway Subaru. I always come back here for maintenance because the service team is professional and friendly. I have always been treated with kindness and courtesy by the entire staff.
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- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray W/Yellow Stitching
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.5 L
- Stock #
- 14721A
- VIN
- 4S4GUHF61R3769711
Dealer
Fairway SubaruReviews
Fairway Subaru review
Very good service during car inspection. Did all that was asked and the people at Fairway were courteous, friendly, and most of all I was satisfied with the service.
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- Ext. color
- FORGED GREEN METALLIC
- Int. color
- DEEP CYPRESS ACTIVEX SEATS
- Transmission
- 10-SPEED AUTO TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 2.3L ECOBOOST I-4 ENGINE
- Stock #
- U-GA11066
- VIN
- 1FMSK8JH2PGA11066
Features
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
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Coccia Ford LincolnReviews
Coccia Ford Lincoln review
The people were excellent to deal with, very friendly and very knowledgeable. Answered all my questions and very respectable to me as a customer. I will continue to buy from Coccia
2023 Ford Explorer review
Apple play used to connect but no longer does. Didn’t notice passenger door wasn’t installed properly until I took a road trip and the noise!!! Drivers side arm rest squeaks as though it’s about to come apart. Very noisy engine over 40 mph.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue Glow Metallic
- Int. color
- Medium Ash Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, VVT variable valve con
- Stock #
- NS113541STK
- VIN
- 3GNAX5EV4NS113541
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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DriveTime of AllentownReviews
DriveTime of Allentown review
I bought a 2015 Ford Escape and I had some problems with it but they took care of the problem with no hesitation I would definitely recommend buying from Drive Time
2022 Chevrolet Equinox review
I have owned 3 Chevy equinox and I like the way it looks and handles. It is a great family vehicle and very comfortable and safe. All 3 of my Equinox were the Premier class well worth the extra money and more features.
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- Ext. color
- CARBONIZED GRAY METALLIC
- Int. color
- EBONY LEATHER-TRIMMED SEATS
- Transmission
- 10-SPEED AUTO TRANSMISSION
- Engine
- 3.0L ECOBOOST V6 ENGINE
- Stock #
- FX1812A
- VIN
- 1FM5K8GC1MGA91187
Features
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
Dealer
Koch 33 FordReviews
Koch 33 Ford review
Good dealer however i can't believe that they dont have loaner cars for when your car is getting serviced ecspecially after buying a car there. You have to rent one which i think is crappy.
2021 Ford Explorer review
I love my ST all except for seating. I’m just not a fan of European style seating soo we had an upholstery shop up grade them. Sooo much fun to drive! Great gas mileage considering I’m a lead foot. And when needed you can put a full 4x8 sheet of plywood in the back.
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$29,011
Est. $495/mo Subaru of Wyoming Valley
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- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Silica
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- S88216A
- VIN
- JF2SKAGC3RH479281
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Subaru of Wyoming ValleyReviews
Subaru of Wyoming Valley review
The service department is always great and consistent with customer service Highly recommend: Timely, knowledgeable and professional staff with all needs related to Subaru service and sales
2024 Subaru Forester review
the forester sport is very reliable get 26 mpg on most of my daily commutes. Drives great in the winter (even though I have the same tires they came with). Traveling in it on road trips are great, 31 mpg using the cruise control and lane assist. It's not a very fast SUV but it honestly worth it. I tend to speed, but it's not something that actually bothers me. I was worried it would be too sluggish. I picked the forester for my road trips, and extra stuff I drive with.
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- Ext. color
- Meteorite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- UL407983
- VIN
- 2HKRS4H76SH407983
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Hazleton HondaReviews
2025 Honda CR-V review
The CRV is a luxury mid size hatchback. Smooth riding, handles well in Michigan’s winter weather 🤒. Good miles per gallon. I do drive in economy mode. I am still getting used to the size after driving a Honda Odessy. Good overall view. No obvious blind spots. I wish it had a manual garage opener feature on on the Ex.
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- Ext. color
- Lunar Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Continuously Variable Transmission
- Stock #
- UL407046
- VIN
- 2HKRS4H75RH407046
Dealer
Hazleton HondaReviews
Hazleton Honda review
I was hesitant at first since it's a new car dealership, but this place is absolutely amazing. Very friendly, understanding and kind people, beautiful new cars and good prices for them. I got a Pre-Owned vehicle, and it's like it was brand new off the lot! Runs perfect and all. If you go here, I'd *highly* recommend Kathleen "Kat" Warner; she's very kind and patient, and answers all your questions, even via phone! They also took my old 2006 car as a trade-in for value, despite how bad it was, and someone from the garage even helped remove the plate that had a stripped screw. The sales manager is very kind and friendly as well, answered all of our questions, too! Absolutely excellent service all around. Thank you all so much over at Hazleton Honda/Hyundai!
2024 Honda CR-V review
Can't enjoy music or conversation while driving due to road and outside noise. I'm used to a Ford f150 that is very comfortable and quiet.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- AGATE BLACK METALLIC
- Int. color
- EBONY ACTIVEX TRIM SEATS
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- JJ11329
- VIN
- 1FMCU9JA5RUB07012
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Key Ford of HazletonReviews
Key Ford of Hazleton review
We purchased a used vehicle from Derek Sendrick and were treated very well. Great car and price. Minor issue after the sale was handled promptly and properly. Highly recommend Key Ford and Derek Sendrick!
2024 Ford Escape review
I’ve had extreme trouble getting into and out of the vehicle because the floor is so deep to the door. I now have a permanently injured knee. The doors don’t open wide enough for my knee that doesn’t bend completely. That causes me discomfort. Senior people can’t always bend their joints enough to get into and out of this vehicle. But I do love how it handles and also the great features.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Dark Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with SHIFTRONIC
- Engine
- Smartstream 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable
- Stock #
- S26T3120A
- VIN
- 5NMJBCDE0RH364650
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Kelly Hyundai of StroudsburgReviews
Kelly Hyundai of Stroudsburg review
Chuck did a great job showing me the features and allowing me a thorough test drive. The test drive itself sold me on the vehicle. Very happy with my new ELANTRA.
2024 Hyundai TUCSON review
There are some things worth noting. Gas mileage is not great. No where near what it says. Controls are hard to navigate and confusing but I love the phone, GPS, ride, Sirius and other safety features.
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- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Silica
- Int. color
- Black W/Orange Stitching
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 4 cyl 2.5l Gasoline
- Stock #
- SF1090A
- VIN
- 4S4GUHM69R3782046
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sapphire Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 4 cyl 2.5l Gasoline
- Stock #
- SF421A
- VIN
- 4S4GUHB61T3740884
Dealer
Ertle SubaruReviews
Ertle Subaru review
Excellent service, provided a vehicle to use during visit. Friendly service. Car washed afterwards. My first visit with this new electric vehicle.
2026 Subaru Crosstrek review
Handling and features are great. It was pretty easy getting used to diving it and learning features. I had been driving a Honda CRV for 9 years and was a lot the same.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black W/Orange Stitching
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 4 cyl 2.5l Gasoline
- Stock #
- SF962A
- VIN
- 4S4GUHM66R3830313
Dealer
Ertle Subaru -


Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray W/Yellow Stitching
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 4 cyl 2.5l Gasoline
- Stock #
- SF899A
- VIN
- 4S4GUHF64R3747766
Dealer
Ertle SubaruReviews
2024 Subaru Crosstrek review
This car is perfect for me. It reminds me a lot of my 2002 Forester which I liked very much, but with all the new technology and a lot more pep. It also rides a lot smoother. It just so happens to be one inch longer than my Forester. So, the visibility and spacing is exactly what I want. The variable cruise control and lane control virtually drive the car by itself. I no longer get stressed driving in rush hour traffic and I no longer get tired during long drives. The ground clearance and all wheel drive make it easier to drive in snow. It's the perfect car for anyone, not just an old guy like me.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 4 cyl 2l Gasoline
- Stock #
- SF1078A
- VIN
- JF2GUADCXR8231985
Dealer
Ertle SubaruReviews
Ertle Subaru review
I drive over 90 miles to this place because of the outstanding car services and their personnel..
2024 Subaru Crosstrek review
I love my 2024 Subaru Crosstrek! It's great in all weather conditions, which is one of the main reasons I bought it. I live in the Buffalo area and I needed a good car for the snowy winters. It's roomy enough to hold plenty of luggage and even my dog's large crate but easy to maneuver and park. I love all the safety features and special features such as the large media display.
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- Ext. color
- Offshore Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 4 cyl 2l Gasoline
- Stock #
- AF027
- VIN
- JF2GUADC6RH213421
Dealer
Ertle SubaruReviews
Ertle Subaru review
Service advisor Ashley was extremely helpful and ensured the maintenance was completed in a timely manner. Service was done professionally.
2024 Subaru Crosstrek review
Durable. I got the wilderness sport line. Very reliable and just a good compact SUV. As long as you maintain it, it will last forever.
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- Ext. color
- Geyser Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 4 cyl 2.5l Gasoline
- Stock #
- SF1037A
- VIN
- 4S4GUHT6XR3764818
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Ertle Subaru -


Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Silica
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 4 cyl 2l Gasoline
- Stock #
- SF958A
- VIN
- JF2GUADC6R8263090
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Ertle SubaruReviews
Ertle Subaru review
Service department is great, friendly and makes sure you’re taken care of every time
2024 Subaru Crosstrek review
Too early to be sure of reliability, but my previous 4 subarus were great. I came here to say how much I like this new purchase, a used '24. Great cruise features. Good power & performance (2.5L) so I'm happy with the CVT. I just love it. They're still a bit lighter and noisier than the outback/legacy versions.
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- Ext. color
- Offshore Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 4 cyl 2l Gasoline
- Stock #
- SF1045A
- VIN
- JF2GUADC5R8261718
Dealer
Ertle SubaruReviews
Ertle Subaru review
Great customer service super quick Service Department also has loaner cars which is a plus
2024 Subaru Crosstrek review
If you're looking for a compact SUV that feels like a safe bet without being boring, the 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Sport is worth a serious look, especially as a certified pre-owned. It’s the kind of car that quietly earns your trust, mile after mile. The Crosstrek Sport hits a sweet spot between comfort and practicality. The seats are genuinely comfortable, the cabin layout makes sense, and there’s enough space to haul groceries, camping gear, or a couple of friends without feeling cramped. It’s not flashy inside, but everything feels solid and built to last. Driving it feels reassuring. The 2.5-liter engine has enough power to handle daily errands and weekend road trips, and Subaru’s all-wheel drive system gives it a confident grip in rain, snow, or on gravel. It’s not going to win drag races, but it’s smooth, predictable, and easy to drive. Looks-wise, the Crosstrek Sport is understated but sharp. The sport trim adds just enough flair to stand out without trying too hard. It’s the kind of design that ages well. What really makes this model shine as a certified pre-owned is the peace of mind. You get a factory-backed warranty, a thorough inspection, and the comfort of knowing it’s been vetted by Subaru. Combine that with Subaru’s reputation for reliability and strong resale value, and you’ve got a vehicle that’s built for the long haul. I’d recommend the certified pre-owned Crosstrek Sport to anyone who wants a dependable, comfortable SUV that won’t surprise you, in the best way. It’s perfect for folks who value practicality, live in places with unpredictable weather, or just want a car that quietly gets the job done. It’s not trying to be a luxury car or a performance beast. It’s just a really good Subaru.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sapphire Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 4 cyl 2.5l Gasoline
- Stock #
- SF400A
- VIN
- 4S4GUHD65T3738259
Dealer
Ertle SubaruReviews
2026 Subaru Crosstrek review
We love our new Subaru car… Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid. The process was challenging. Chris Baird worked with us every step of the way. When we felt unsure, he didn’t hesitate to present any option we were interested in. Chris would define the pros for us on each model. Subaru was right on target with trade in value. We were able to do all our business in one place…the Subaru dealers. We have never had a Hybrid car. Chris was so patience informing us of all details. He also spent, as much time as we needed, going over features of our car. We were very comfortable and happy with our new car. Chris is awesome at his job. He is truly an asset to the Subaru dealers. We do want to comment on how friendly everyone was to us. It has been a wonderful experience. Thank you for a meaningful and knowledgeable experience. Sincerely, Tom and Joanne Colgan
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sapphire Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 4 cyl 2.5l Gasoline
- Stock #
- SF010A
- VIN
- 4S4GUHD67T3702427
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Ertle SubaruReviews
2026 Subaru Crosstrek review
I purchased my new 2026 Subaru Crosstrek Limited from White's Mountain Subaru in Casper, WY. I selected the Subaru after doing a lot of comparison shopping and research. The Crosstrek was the best value for the money. I am an older person and the adjustable seats are at a level that is easy to get in and out of. The cabin is roomy, and there is plenty of space in the cargo area. The heated seats and heated steering wheel are a nice feature. The ride is very comfortable, especially on longer trips. The vehicle is solid - well built. Subaru's commitment to safety is apparent and that gives me peace of mind when I'm on the road. Overall, I am very satisfied with my new 2026 Subaru Crosstrek.
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- Ext. color
- Magnetite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray W/Orange Stitching
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 4 cyl 2.5l Gasoline
- Stock #
- SF897A
- VIN
- 4S4GUHL65R3771966
Dealer
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- Ext. color
- Ice Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.5 L
- Stock #
- 14568A
- VIN
- JF2SKAPC4PH484051
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Fairway SubaruReviews
Fairway Subaru review
I'm really happy with my 2024 Subaru Crosstrek, which I purchased at Fairway Subaru in Hazelton.
2023 Subaru Forester review
Overall, at 60k miles, I’ve had no problems and am very happy. I average around 34 mpg’s with mixed driving. I’m happy with the acceleration as well, even though Subaru’s without a turbo are sometimes labeled as slow. I have no problem merging onto highways. The Forester is an easy to live with SUV/car. The rear room is adequate, although the CRV offers about 10 cubic feet more rear capacity. Visibility is excellent. The CVT is smooth and has simulated shifts, just make sure you change the fluid every 30k! I own the Limited with leather seats that are very comfortable. Sometimes the response time on the radio/touch screen can feel a little delayed. I also opted for the dimming driver/rear view mirrors which is great during winter commuting. It saves your eyes from glare. Very view cars offer this which is why I went with the Subaru. My only “major” complaint with the car is a slight rattle coming from the dash board area. It isn’t always there, but is present enough to bother me. Aside from that it is an excellent vehicle and value for the money!
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- Ext. color
- Deep Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Cream
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- 1-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- 1TC2987
- VIN
- 5YJSA1E62MF442987
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Impex Auto SalesReviews
Impex Auto Sales review
Casey Smith helped me get a new car. Great person—which makes for a great salesman! He was very patient and accommodating. I am happy with my deal, and thankful for his help!
2021 Tesla Model S review
purchased used with 2,200 miles. At first, I hated it, I've never had an all-electric car and the batter was dead. Luckily they sent someone to jump it. I was still thinking it was a mistake, until I actually drove it and got to know it and learn it. Drives totally different than my corvette. Now I like the Tesla better than my 650hp corvette. It hugs the road like nothing, takes off like a bat out of xxxx. I felt safe and comfortable hitting the pedal to the floor and feeling the rush of this thing taking off and just hanging on to that jet style steering wheel.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BURGUNDY
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 28984166
- VIN
- 2T2HGCEZ3SC084732
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax HartfordReviews
CarMax Hartford review
I purchased a 2009 Nissan Rogue on 10-11-12. It was an easy, actually fun experience. The sales man was not pushy, it was an easy process and everyone was very helpful. I love my new car. I would recomend carmax to anyone who wants a stress free car buying experience.
2025 Lexus NX 350 review
I got the option to test drive a hybrid NX. And after driving it I can honestly say I'm much happier driving my NX350 gas version (I have a 2025 NX 350 Luxury). First I notice the hybrid felt under power, and then I realize that my gas version has a stronger engine with the turbo. Second the sound that the hybrid makes like a droning noise, did not like that. The driving experience on my gas feels great compare to the hybrid version. Now I did not do a road test with the plug in, but from everything I have heard that is the one to get. At this moment don't have a house, so gas is the best option for me. But after we buy our house then i feel like the plug in is the way to go, especially with the bigger horse power. And yes I understand the save in gas of a hybrid but I'm spending big money on NX and I want to enjoy the drive. If i want to save money then I will go for Toyota and save a lot more on gas. (the 350h is for people who want to save money on their gas bill and 200hp is enough as they want luxury from A to B and don't need it to be fun). So that for me is not a factor, for me is the drive and the comfortable of a luxury product. And yes I get it Lexus luxury ain't what it used to be many years ago, but in 2024 it's better then a Toyota luxury. Example RAV 4 limited vs NX luxury, I prefer to spend more money on the NX for the luxury level in todays market of 2024. So Luxury with a good driving experience are it for me...and of course the reliability of Toyota/Lexus makes it all the better then any other brand for me.
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