Used Dodge cars for sale near Newark, CA
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- White Knuckle Clearcoat
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- Black
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- 19-30
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- Gasoline
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- 8-Speed Automatic
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- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
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- P17328
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- 2C3CDXHGXPH638892
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One Toyota Of OaklandReviews
One Toyota Of Oakland review
I just bought a GR Corolla from Jae and he was very communicative during the process.
2023 Dodge Charger review
I have had several Chargers over a lot of years, and this is the best! It is just so stupid that Dodge quit making one of their best selling cars.
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- Ext. color
- Triple Nickel Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- U16159X
- VIN
- 2C3CDXBG6PH546719
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- Keyless Entry
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- Alloy Wheels
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
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- LED Headlights
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Capitol FordReviews
Capitol Ford review
From the initial contact in the evening to driving home in a new car before noon the following day. Cody Elemen was great, ( laid back, no pressure and efficient). He got everything squared away on his end before i got there so i could just sign the needed documents and be on my way, wasn't even at the dealership 2hrs total (included test driving the car, running a credit check, securing financing, signing paperwork). They also fueled the tank up all the way which was appreciated. Capital offered a fair deal a few% under msrp and Ford credit got my apr way lower on the loan than any bank rate going these days. Rachel Murphy in finance finished the transaction and didn't rush me thru the process, ( we were done with all of it in under 20 min) and explained what forms were for what and answered any questions I had. Overall a great first time buying experience, really polite and friendly. Cody Elemen, Rachel Murphy thank you for your courtesy, efficiency, and your humble genuineness.
2023 Dodge Charger review
I was at bravo CDJR dealership purchase a Dodge charger 392 I was amazed how the sale product specialist very knowledgeable about their vehicles explain all the Dodge chargers scat pack very details And they treat me very, very friendly. I will recommend to everybody to this dealership
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- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 27071188
- VIN
- 2C3CDZJGXNH233179
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- Convenience
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
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CarMax HendersonReviews
CarMax Henderson review
It wasn’t a perfect experience, but I still give 5 stars because I truly believe Carrie in corporate and the GM of the store are stand-up people who genuinely care about making sure their customers are happy and in the right vehicle. In the end, everything worked out as it should. Carrie was extremely professional, patient, and helpful throughout the process, and the GM was equally understanding and supportive. I stand by the fact that CarMax sells reliable, well-running vehicles. Two of my children have purchased cars from them, and I recently purchased a Ford F-150 myself. Each time, the vehicles have been excellent. I’ve been very satisfied with the service I’ve received—both when selling my vehicle (fair offer) and when buying one (fair price). I would feel completely confident recommending this dealership to anyone looking to buy a car.
2022 Dodge Challenger review
I absolutely LOVE this car! Mine is the SXT base trim with the Pentastar V6 engine, purchased used at 37,000ish miles, but it is still the best car I’ve ever owned or driven. It is extremely comfortable to sit in (I am 5’10), on par with the comfort of my dad’s old ‘87 Camaro, which was also incredibly comfortable. It’s not a cramped space to sit in and the console is a comfortable arm rest height. But family conscious buyer beware, this isn’t a family friendly car; there’s pretty much no legroom in the back of the car. Maybe if you’re short and very skinny you could fit well, but taller or heavier folks will definitely not fit in the back. I certainly struggled to fit just to pull the seat down to extend the trunk space! The headrests of the backseats are a little tall and don’t let the front seats click back up all the way unless you pull the bucket seats up really far which is a little annoying but as someone who doesn’t lug around much it’s not something I’m really frustrated with. The trunk is super spacious! It rides very smoothly on the absolute garbage roads here in Western Washington (we have some of the worst roads in the US). Still bumpy because the potholes are insane, but smoother than our my parents vehicles and my old car (2011 Kia Soul). The audio controls on the steering wheel are mounted on the back which was odd to me initially but I have quickly adapted to their placement and make use of them a ton with Apple Music. Speaking of music, the base 6 speaker audio system sounds phenomenal as it comes; loud and I can really feel the drums and bass on higher volumes which I love, though I’ll be adding a subwoofer at some point. Let the music play! The engine and transmission run and function well and shifts smoothly in both regular and sport driving mode; I love sport mode, the slight engine sound difference and touchier throttle is fun, but it does reduce fuel efficiency a bit so I don’t use it too terribly much. I do wish the car was fitted with a cat-back exhaust system so it at least has the sound of a muscle car (where’s the allure in a muscle car, particularly one that revives the classics in a modern form, that has a quiet engine?) while retaining the more dependable and fuel efficient motor. That is something I will be saving up to change out, but that’s just me; for many that doesn’t matter, but is something to note if you are an avid lover of classic muscle cars and want to enjoy its allure even if you can’t afford the higher trims with the V8s, I certainly couldn’t; but that’s okay, I still cherish this car and appreciate the reliability of the V6 as a lower income individual. One thing I really don’t like (but chose to live with as I love the car to death otherwise) is that a lot of the climate control features are “locked” behind the infotainment screen; making it a big distraction and hassle to change between max or regular air conditioning and the which fans are blowing. The only buttons for it is a dial for fan strength, an off switch, an auto button, defrosters, and the AC on/off button. The USB and aux plug ins are inside the console, which is kind of awkward, but I actually like that as it makes you put your phone in the console (unless you have a long cord, mine is coiled) which prevents it from being a distraction. There is a moderate blind spot, but it is easily corrected with *properly* angled side mirrors. All in all I love this car and couldn’t recommend it more than I do. I plan to try to make this last the rest of my life in the best shape possible. It’s Mopar or no car! 🚗
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- Ext. color
- Green
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28537468
- VIN
- 2C3CDXGJ9LH135698
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
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CarMax HendersonReviews
CarMax Henderson review
This is my 6th BMW purchase d from this CarMax. Because of the Pandemic, this process is a little bit hectic. Lots of steps now to complete the purchase. The employees have to work a lot more to protect both the Buyer as well as the CarMax employees. I waited around a lot before I was able too complete my purchased. I was ok with that though as it was done for my safety. I would still come back again for any further purchases. The end result sent me home with my new 2016 BMW M5. I’m happy. Thank You!!
2020 Dodge Charger review
I had an excellent experience buying from Bilal, he helped me out a lot, I'd buy my cars from him, I recommend coming to him. Thank you very much!
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- Ext. color
- Pitch Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
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- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 64F03064
- VIN
- 2C3CDZAG0LH155685
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Victory Honda of Morgan HillReviews
Victory Honda of Morgan Hill review
Best Honda dealership around! Mr. DiPaola was very knowledgeable and most helpful. Will definitely be back! Service was exceptional. Love love love our Victory Honda!
2020 Dodge Challenger review
Awesome car performance, looks, sound and comfort at a very competitive price. Proven reliability with technology found on more expensive domestic and European models. Definitely a buy.
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- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 27818541
- VIN
- 2C3CDXHG6HH630371
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- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
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- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Seating
- Memory Seat
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CarMax Pleasant HillReviews
2017 Dodge Charger review
This charger scat pack has been the best car I have ever owned beautiful car dependable comfortable and that’s why I own two of them 😊
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$24,687
Est. $466/mo Tracy Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram
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- Ext. color
- Granite Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 5.7L V-8 variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine w
- Stock #
- HH611517T
- VIN
- 2C3CDZBTXHH611517
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- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
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- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
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- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
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- Alloy Wheels
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Tracy Chrysler Jeep Dodge RamReviews
Tracy Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram review
Mike took care of the issue that my truck was having and I was back on the road the next day
2017 Dodge Challenger review
The dealer I bought it from was horrible , Twenty hills dodge jeep, They were misleading. I found out 2 days later that the car had been wrecked. I love the car but the Rack and pinion. is bad on it, The service department is horrible. Still haven't got the car fixed yet,
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- Ext. color
- Go Mango
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 5.7L V-8 regular unleaded, engine with cylinder deactivatio
- Stock #
- KH756960P
- VIN
- 2C3CDXCT3KH756960
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- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Tracy Chrysler Jeep Dodge RamReviews
Tracy Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram review
Although i never made it in to test drive, the sales rep and online sales rep were very helpful in answering all my questions.
2019 Dodge Charger review
i have a 2018 SXT it is plumb crazy purple love the color was going to buy a B5 blue until i seen them side by side. The biggest problem i have with it is the door panels warping on all 4 doors along with the drivers side console. This is a common problem with the Dodge cars. there should be a recall from the factory but alas nothing. Door panel run anywhere from 250 used to 600 new. Check the web about this before buying a Dodge.
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- Ext. color
- Triple Nickel Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- PRPH579120
- VIN
- 2C3CDXHG1PH579120
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- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Tracy ToyotaReviews
Tracy Toyota review
I drove from Sacramento and it was worth every second. Deepak was the singular best experience I e ever had purchasing a vehicle. He is patient, informative and transparent. I ignored numerous dealerships nearer to me simply because of Deepak and Tracy Toyota!
2023 Dodge Charger review
I am so glad I decided to get a Charger in 2015. I now have a 2023 Daytona and LOVE it. Beautiful and fun to drive. Only problem is there is no spare tire, just basically a fix a flat kit.
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$32,586
Est. $615/mo Gilroy Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
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- Ext. color
- White Knuckle Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 6.4L V-8 premium unleaded, engine with cylinder deactivatio
- Stock #
- LH117425U
- VIN
- 2C3CDZFJ9LH117425
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Gilroy Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
2020 Dodge Challenger review
I waited 50 plus years to buy this car ! Now l have a Hellraisin Scat Pack with a Shaker hood . I’m very happy ! The car is all l wanted & more ! Semper Fi
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- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.7L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- TGH258158
- VIN
- 2C3CDXCT4GH258158
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- Convenience
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Watsonville Cadillac GMCReviews
Watsonville Cadillac GMC review
My wife and I just purchased a used, Cadillac Escalade... 2021... The experience from start to finish was first class. Joseph Gudgel was my Service Consultant and Joe Lopez was the general manager who made the magic happen. No smoke or mirrors... it was a transparent process and first class from start to finish. I can tell you at the age of 44 it was the best car buying experience of my life. REALLY LOVE THESE FOLKS, drove down from NAPA CA to meet with these folks.
2016 Dodge Charger review
If you are wanting a reliable car, that drives smooth, this is the car for you! Hands down the best car I have ever owned! I have a 2016 SXT Rear Wheel drive with the 3.6L V6 engine. I am the original owner and still till today I have the car. From mileage of 0-135,000, I have only had to have the oil changed, tires rotated, and of course brakes. At 135,000 miles I had my first major repair which was the passenger side lifters, cam shaft and Rods replaced. Now currently at 140,000 my drive shaft. But overall, this car has been hands down the best I have ever owned. The only thing that I am disappointed with is that Chargers are known for the door panels to peel away, and yet Dodge still has not put in a recall on this matter. Wake up Dodge put the recall in on the door panels pulling away, because honestly the glue you all used back then is not living up to its potential.
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- Ext. color
- Triple Nickel Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- P1357
- VIN
- 2C3CDXBG4MH638746
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Platinum Hyundai of TracyReviews
Platinum Hyundai of Tracy review
Trustworthy dealership. Best prices..beat competitors prices. Amazing warranty. Highly recommend!
2021 Dodge Charger review
Owned a Dodge Charger GT 2021 for 3 years now. Grey with the nice 245 tires. The care is BEAUTIFUL. I love the style and Dodge give you soo many options to customize it. I added a rear winder louver and some racing stripes. Its a car that looks super fast eventhough its on a V6. But who am I racing in my daily driver? The drive is nice, excellent 305 HP, and massive caliphers along with rotors gives you excellent stopping power. All is stock. This is a strong rear wheel drive. I see why many people like doing donuts in this car. its fun, but at $400 a tire, not me. The comfort could be better. Plenty of space, as a man who is 6'2 300, very spacious, but the seats are not comfortable for long distance trips, The stereo system is average, nothing to boom or even brag about. I do like all of the electronic features, such as checking your 0-60, sports control, and Mopar app. that keeps you updated on your car needs. The value, I think its a bit over priced. At the time it was $42K, but I traded a 2018 Challenger that knocked off $20k and then Dodge had a special that knocked another $3k off and with 0% financing using Chrysler Capital...it was a deal. I know without these perks I have settled for the SXT. A huge negative about this car, it depreciate badly. Only 3 years and the car lost almost half its value. I support over time, since Dodge stop making these cars in 2023...they may increase in value...but I doubt it. Ask Pontiac.
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- Ext. color
- Billet Silver Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Light Graystone
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, VVT variable valve control, regular unl
- Stock #
- TDR758207
- VIN
- 2C4RDGCG6DR758207
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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Nissan of GilroyReviews
Nissan of Gilroy review
The dealership had; Friendly Service, Good deal, Clear communication, Clean lobby. It was a good experiance.
2013 Dodge Grand Caravan review
I got this car approximately 3 months ago from a close relative, and I can say there have absolutely been no issues that would make you regret your decision, (knock on wood). The car has never left me stranded, and has always started. When I first got the vehicle I got basic maintenance such as a synthetic oil change, oil filter, an engine filter, and an in-cabin air filter. After some time, the check-engine light appeared due to a thermostat. After one new installment of a thermostat, and some freshly topped coolant, there have been no other issues. I give the comfort rating a 5, due to the spacious interior, and captain-chair seats. I give the interior a 4 because while it may not have "everything" you want, it has everything you need (even coming from a base model). Performance is a 4, because it's not an M3. I give the value a 4 as well simply because of the fact that you can buy one as a consumer fairly priced, and you can sell one as a seller for a decent price. Exterior is a 3, due to the largeness of the vehicle. However, LED brake lights, and rear turn signals are standard, which is really nice. And lastly, other than basic maintenance, and one mishap, I give this car a 5 star rating for reliability.
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- Ext. color
- White Knuckle Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 64F03055
- VIN
- 1C4RDHDG7PC635873
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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Victory Honda of Morgan HillReviews
Victory Honda of Morgan Hill review
They are the best dealership I’ve ever worked with and I look forward to shopping with them in the future for a new car yes
2023 Dodge Durango review
Great car best car I have ever driven so happy with my purchase would definitely get again in the future. Thank you for my new car!
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- Ext. color
- DB Black Crystal Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- RRC138275
- VIN
- 1C4RDJDG8RC138275
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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Vallejo Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram -
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- Ext. color
- Red Pearl Coat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- GC486133T
- VIN
- 1C4RDJAG5GC486133
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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Tracy Chrysler Jeep Dodge RamReviews
Tracy Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram review
I really found the best service advisor since I started to take vehicle to this dealership her name is Laura she is the best. Very polite, very knowledgeable and excellent customer service skills
2016 Dodge Durango review
Best car I've ever owned, and I've owned quite a few personally as well as company vehicles. This car is simply the best and I plan on keeping it a very long time.
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