Used Ford Explorer for sale near Devon, PA
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White Platinum Tri-Coat Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V GDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- H260169A
- VIN
- 1FM5K8GTXJGB83538
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Chapman of HorshamReviews
2018 Ford Explorer review
Love this car overall but I have only one complaint. I was putting some boxes in the rear of the car and one of the boxes must have touched the the rear seat folding mechanism as all of a sudden it tried to unfold the seats. If my grandchildren had been sitting there strapped in I hate to think what may have happened!! Wish you had coverage over the mechanism so this wouldn’t happen.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Spruce Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Intercooled Turbo Premium Unleaded I-4 2.3 L/140
- Stock #
- TLV1032
- VIN
- 1FMSK8FH0LGA57577
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Land Rover WilmingtonReviews
Land Rover Wilmington review
Great dealership, but currently the Land Rover is out of my comfort budget zzone. They treated me royally and I was honest with them, I want a new car, not used. I'll just have to wait about six months before I'll be comfortable in spending that much money.
2020 Ford Explorer review
Just bought one used and I LOVE this car! Traded in my GMC Terrain and this is much much much better! Wanted one for years and glad I finally got one. Very stylish and comfortable to drive!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 28451081
- VIN
- 1FM5K8GCXNGB38766
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
CarMax MechanicsburgReviews
CarMax Mechanicsburg review
Love the personality of the reps and they are always eager to help! They don't push you into buying more than your original budget and won't bother you about it! They also will let u browse the lot on you own, and all there cars are unlocked! I absolutely love there transfer program where they will transfer vehicles to your local stores without an obligation, and many transfers are free! Only complaint about Carmax is that I feel the cars are a bit overpriced, but it's worth it in the end for there customer service!
2022 Ford Explorer review
I am happy with everything about my explorer. Get good gas mileage and is very comfortable ride. Traded my 2020 for this 2022. Love the color and have gotten lots of compliments.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- BROWN
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 70000295
- VIN
- 1FMSK7BH5PGA34947
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
CarMax Greenville NCReviews
CarMax Greenville NC review
MY EXPERIENCE WAS GREAT WITH CARMAX, THEY SHOW ME GREAT RESPECT. I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THEM. THE SALESMAN THAT ASSIST WAS VERY HELPFUL IN GIVING ME INFORMATION ABOUT PURCHASING A VEHICLE. BRANDON WAS VERY HELPFUL IN ASSISTING ME IN GETTING IN AND OUT OF MY TRUCK.
2023 Ford Explorer review
Best car I’ve ever owned. Does everything I want//need it to do. Always starts in the morning. I’ve been camping with it and slept inside the car. Plenty of room
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$37,936
Est. $648/mo Chapman Ford Lancaster
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- RAPID RED MET TINTED CC
- Int. color
- EBONY LEATHER SEAT SURFACES
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable
- Stock #
- DP8179
- VIN
- 1FM5K8HCXPGA32156
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Chapman Ford LancasterReviews
Chapman Ford Lancaster review
Highly recommended! We bought 3 new vehicles from Chapman and #4 in the works. The service department, specifically Mike and Jerry, are the reason we truly have stayed loyal over the years. We drive past 4 other Ford dealerships to come to Chapman. Harrison in commercial sales is one of the finest salesman I have ever come across . He is absolutely committed to the customer and their experience. He goes the extra mile to keep you informed and part of the process. We will be back !
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Space White Metallic
- Int. color
- Mojave Dusk/Onyx
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2.3L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valv
- Stock #
- F65538
- VIN
- 1FMUK8HH9SGB65538
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Twin Pine FordReviews
Twin Pine Ford review
This dealer has new and used cars all over the county. I went to look at the popular Maverick pickup. This one had some issues that manifested right away. The dealer has corrected them and is keeping me in the loop because the title is in limbo (previous owner passed away.
2025 Ford Explorer review
I upgraded from a 2017 Explorer Sport to a 2025 Explorer ST. It handles better. It sounds better. It is faster. The interior is way better. The seats hug you. The infotainment system is fast and works really well.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.3L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- B06294T01
- VIN
- 1FMSK7FHXMGB06294
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Hyundai of TrentonReviews
Hyundai of Trenton review
He was very professional and helpful, he answered every question we had, overall a great experience for a first time buyer. Would definitely recommend!
2021 Ford Explorer review
First time Explorer owner, had an Expedition that I loved but it was too high for my wife, so it went to our son. The Explorer Limited is lower, but still higher than a crossover or sedan which helps my visability. Love the electronics but concerned that they will have problems later on so I purchased a dealer extended warranty (bumper to bumper) that is 10 years 125,000 additional miles for piece of mind. Car drives like a dream, is VERY comfortable, has more than enough power even with the 4cyl (used to V8's). Gas mileage even with 4WD is great (23 city and almost 29 highway) not climbing hills. We will see how it does when we go north.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ruby Red Metallic Tinted Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Medium Light Camel
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- NP7858A
- VIN
- 1FM5K8DH1GGC64694
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Kelly NissanReviews
Kelly Nissan review
I had the best experience there Sara Early was so helpful and so sweet! She was so honest with me and gave me excellent advice. Will deffiently come back!
2016 Ford Explorer review
2016 Platinum. Nice SUV, comfortable, very powerful, decent fuel economy, fair build quality, but there are some things to be aware of; the AWD models have a PTU (power transfer unit) which sends power to the rear wheels. It is positioned very close to the exhaust, and the heat generated by the turbochargers literally cooks the gear oil in the PTU, causing it to fail. The unit only holds about a quart of oil, and is NOT serviced or checked, even when you have the vehicle serviced at the dealer. We had trouble with the front camera, and the recirculation actuator on the climate control. If you are considering a used Explorer, I highly recommend buying the best warranty you can! The only complaint I have is the road noise. On new pavement, it's quiet, but on all other roads it's VERY loud inside!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- P6881
- VIN
- 1FM5K8GC4MGC12794
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
LUCAS CHEVROLETReviews
LUCAS CHEVROLET review
Very friendly and helpful from the time I walked in the door until I left. Highly recommend this dealership especially Joe W who was amazing to work with.
2021 Ford Explorer review
Although pricey, this truck is awesome to drive . Very sharp looking and runs fast! I highly recommend ! We went from a Flex to this car and it was a seamless transition.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Onyx
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.3L EcoBoost I-4
- Stock #
- 26K869A
- VIN
- 1FMUK7KH2SGA25821
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Turnersville KiaReviews
Turnersville Kia review
I have been dealing with this dealership for years. I just leased my 4th Kia from them. They always come through with the best deals and the monthly payments I’m looking for. Scot my salesmen keeps in touch with me even after I got each of my new cars. I would recommend Turnersville Kia to anyone looking for the best deal.
2025 Ford Explorer review
I purchased a 2025 Ford Explorer Platinum with the 3.0 liter 6 cyclinder. The car has lots of power and drives well. It has lots of acceleration and easily pulls a 5000 lb trailer. Things I like about the car: 1. Heated and cooled front massage seats. On a long drive the massage seats are fabulous! 2. Very good radio/sound system 3. Wireless Apple/Android connectivity 4. Lots of cargo space What I dislike: 1. Gas mileage between 19-22 mpg 2. Lane departure system annoying 3. Had a rattle noise in the front of the car at 9000 miles that the dealer could not find. At 11,000 miles, the rattle mysteriously went away. No idea what is going on here. 4. Sometimes when I open the rear hatch, the chime sounds loudly, The next time it does not sound at all. Wish I could just turn it off. ??
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Stone Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2.3L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valv
- Stock #
- PGB88042
- VIN
- 1FMSK8DH1PGB88042
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Miller SubaruReviews
Miller Subaru review
I bought a new Bronco Sport. The process was fantastic from beginning from inquiry to delivery. This is my second time buying from Miller Ford. My new husband also has a vehicle he purchased from Miller Ford that is 3 years old and loving it. They have been reliable, trustworthy and I have the utmost confidence in everyone at this dealership ?
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Star White Metallic Tri-Coat
- Int. color
- Light Sandstone
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable
- Stock #
- 352341A
- VIN
- 1FM5K8HC0NGB68924
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Burlington ChevroletReviews
Burlington Chevrolet review
The sales people were very professional no hidden fees they worked with you to get the right price very honest dealership that’s hard to find i truly recommend them
2022 Ford Explorer review
Looked at many different vehicles, very happy with 2022 Ford Explorer. The Explorer vehicle is very roomy with all the comforts of a luxury vehicle.
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$48,239
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Agate Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2.3L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valv
- Stock #
- 13005P
- VIN
- 1FMSK8DH0PGB09640
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Davis AcuraReviews
Davis Acura review
I purchased a 2021 RDX from Davis Acura. My sales rep was Glenn. My questions were handled by a pro. The test drive was thorough and pressure free. Glenn went over the safety features with me and made sure the car was had surpassed "Davis" quality before delivery. I would work with Glenn and the rest of the team again.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Twin Turbo Premium Unleaded V-6 3.0 L/183
- Stock #
- ER9591
- VIN
- 1FM5K8GC1NGC30848
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Piazza Acura / Honda of ReadingReviews
Piazza Acura / Honda of Reading review
My second purchase and well pleased beyond my expectations. Bob is friendly, efficient, and very patient in working through the details from beginning to the end of the transaction. They have the highest quality in preowned vehicles with fair prices.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Stone Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Sandstone
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2.3L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valv
- Stock #
- P221988
- VIN
- 1FMSK8DH0NGB31988
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ciocca Audi of FlemingtonReviews
Ciocca Audi of Flemington review
Great dealership! Could not have asked for a better experience while I was here purchasing my vehicle!
2022 Ford Explorer review
We have only had our vehicle for a short time but it meets and exceeds our expectation. We purchased the limited model due to the reduced noise inside of the vehicle
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.3L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- U11467
- VIN
- 1FMSK8DH6NGB33373
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Star Auto MallReviews
Star Auto Mall review
I definitely recommend getting a car from this place. Chelsea W was awesome to work with. She is friendly, kind, and will go above and beyond to help you. Paul, the finance guy, was also great to work with. He was very informative, kept you in the loop going step-by-step, also trying to get the best deal for you. I typically hate going to car dealerships. They are usually pushy and sliding things past you trying to get a deal. This place did not. I will be purchasing my next vehicle from them!
2022 Ford Explorer review
I love this vehicle. My 2022 Ford Explorer XLT far exceeds my expectations. Handling is great. Performance is far better than expected. Gas mileage is 26mpg combined average for the 16,500 miles I have on the vehicle so far. The interior fit and finish could be better and the original tires...not holding up very well. The vehicle is comfortable and always a pleasure to drive. I always get compliments on the exterior style. In my opinion, it's one of the better looking SUV's on the road. The rear biased drive train give it superior handling, better than anything I test drove. Chevy, Subaru, or the Kia.
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