Used Ford cars for sale near Killingly, CT
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- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- 13537B
- VIN
- 1FTFW1E87PFA43366
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
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- Remote Start
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- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
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- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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Scranton Chevrolet of NorwichReviews
Scranton Chevrolet of Norwich review
Great people sure of the lady ZOE she?s very nice when I met her I knew I was going to meet nice female the vehicle I got was. Nice
2023 Ford F-150 review
First off, when someone says the truck drives and rides horrible, did they not know we are entitled to test drive the truck first before purchasing. I love my 2023 Ford F150 XLT crew/camper package 6.5' box so far. Put about 5000 miles on it. Purchased used with low mileage. It has all the bells and whistles except for leather seats. Rides great, quiet, and more technology than I'll probably ever use. Endless supply of power with the 3.5 engine and all around mileage about 18-20 and 22-23 on the highway. I liked my 2012 Lariat but mileage was 14.5 all around. I test drove a Dodge and Chevy, but I like the feel of the Ford truck with Dodge a very close second. Chevy feels like the frame is weak and flexes over bumps.
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- Ext. color
- Iconic Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Mahogany
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- 30681P
- VIN
- 1FMJK2A86REA49181
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
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INFINITI of WarwickReviews
INFINITI of Warwick review
Thomas Hart, Sales Consultant is the best. Very knowledgeable and pleasant to work with. Brenda Proulx, Business Manager, best in the business for financial services
2024 Ford Expedition Max review
Previous minivan owner we didn’t realize we had out grown our minivan till we realized the amount of space in our new truck. We have 4 active kids from 5-15 that are in multiple sports. We travel a fair amount both to the airport and on road trips. So our new vehicle needed to get all of us and luggage wherever we’re going. So far this is doing it.
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- Ext. color
- Burgundy
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 27826200
- VIN
- 2FMPK4J97KBC25946
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
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CarMax FredericksburgReviews
CarMax Fredericksburg review
Hassle free and easy! I did not feel pressured at all. Every thing was explained to me. All the staff were welcoming and very friendly.
2019 Ford Edge review
It's a nice vehicle. Roomy. Great features. The trunk has a lot of food. Lots of head room and leg room. Would recommend this vehicle.
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- Ext. color
- Agate Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Medium Dark Slate
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- TORQSHIFT 10-SPEED AUTOMATIC
- Engine
- 7.3L V-8 DEVCT variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- RAFZ3145CT
- VIN
- 1FTBF2BN6REC00344
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Bob Johnson UsedReviews
Bob Johnson Used review
Great easy my salemen Jason was helpful and worked with me highly recommend . well worth the trip.
2024 Ford F-250 review
2024 F250 Lariat Diesel HO is a luxury truck with all of the amenities and safety features that one could want. It handles great, has a much improved turning radius and a very comfortable ride.
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- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC Flexible Fuel
- Stock #
- 855557
- VIN
- 1FTBR2Y83PKB67391
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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BidCars BostonReviews
BidCars Boston review
Billy made the purchasing process seamless, and took care of all my needs. Great dealership overall
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2.7L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- F4071A
- VIN
- 1FTEW1EP4MKE30429
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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Empire Ford Inc.Reviews
Empire Ford Inc. review
Great place for service and hassle-free purchase, Service Dept is great my truck is always done on time.
2021 Ford F-150 review
The 3.3 engine is very reliable and a simple V6 My truck is geared 3:73 which I can still average 24 mpg hiway and sometimes I see 25. I believe the Motorcraft 5W20 is the best option for the engine in the retail shelf market. It outperforms in every category compared to the big brands available. 7500 miles is easily obtained without having consumption issues. For the person who isn’t in need of high hp and wants a truck for long term ownership I would recommend getting the 3.3 engine.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Agate Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- C44403
- VIN
- 1FTFW1ED3NFC44403
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
AutoMax Preowned FraminghamReviews
AutoMax Preowned Framingham review
Matt is Excellent. Outstanding customer service he is knowledgeable and quick and made the buying process a breaze. He went out of his way to make our experience the best it could be and stayed late to make sure my Wife could take hers home same day. I bought 2 cars in two separate trips on Saturday in the time it would take to buy one at other dealerships. This is my 4th car from AutoMax and have never had an issue with any of the vehicles or the experience. This is the place to go and I will be buying my next car there and asking for Matt.
2022 Ford F-150 review
2022 F150 PowerBoost 3.5 twin turbo absolutely hauls xxx with phenomenal gas mileage on a 30 gallon tank. I’ve gotten a true 600 and 700 miles out of a tank of gas when it’s in Eco mode it will run on battery alone if you’re on flat level ground and maintain your speed that’s how they obtain so many miles out of a tank full of gas probably one of the best F1 50s I’ve owned and I’ve had several of them. If you leave it in tow Haul mode it will disengage the auto stop start so the vehicle remains on. It’s been absolutely bullet proof with zero issues. If I’m not driving the Dually Diesel F350 I’m driving this..
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black / Slate Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- AT10878
- VIN
- 1FTFW1E87PKD05586
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Marcotte FordReviews
Marcotte Ford review
I do not often bother to provide reviews of businesses but must make an exception in this case. I have been a customer at Marcotte Ford in Holyoke, Massachusetts now for a few decades. I return to them every time I purchase a new vehicle or have one serviced. This dealership is by far at the top of the heap both in the services they provide and in the extraordinary manner with which they treat customers. The facility is immaculate and features an in-house breakfast and lunch restaurant with ample comfortable seating where you can catch a sandwich or coffee and watch a bit of television if you need to wait for you vehicle to be serviced. Today I picked up my new wheels, an all-electric Mustang MACHe. The process from beginning to end was, as always, remarkably professional and transparent. Andrew helped me every step of the way from letting me know about the car's availability, to trading in my Ford Fusion, to answering all my questions about the multiple bells and whistles on the 2024 Mustang. The business office displayed maximum efficiency and patience and helped me to navigate the finances for this purchase and all of the intricacies that go with purchasing a new car. Marcotte strikes me (and always has) as being a firm where all of the workers are friendly and thoughtful not because they have to be, but because they want to be. I have never felt undue pressure to spend more than I can afford at Marcotte and have never once suspected that my role as a valued customer is being taken for granted. Marcotte Ford promotes a business ethic marked by competence, honesty and friendliness that I have come to expect every time I need to be there. I would also give a shout out to all of the Marcotte staff, many of whom are the unsung heroes who are just as critical to this dealership's success as the sales and service staff. I know this may sound a bit over the top, but the truth is that I mean every word of it, and I just feel like sharing these thoughts with anyone who might be looking for a dependable and affordable new or used Ford. If so, look no further than Marcotte.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- ICONIC SILVER METALLIC
- Int. color
- BLACK SPORT CLOTH 40/CON/40
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2.7L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- P5808
- VIN
- 1FTEW3LP7SKD44205
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Colonial Ford of MarlboroReviews
Colonial Ford of Marlboro review
The Service Manager Bob helped me through the entire process of troubleshooting and repairing my steering problems. The steering column knuckle was frozen and had to be replaced. I am pleased with my overall experience and the results of my visits to Colonial Ford .
2025 Ford F-150 review
Bought this truck new. I’ve put 3500 miles on it and it rides really comfortably. I went from an AT4 with dead lifters to this. I love this truck and I have not towed with it but the max I’m towing is 6,000 so that should not be an issue.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Avalanche
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- PFB13602T
- VIN
- 1FTFW1E84PFB13602
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Parkway Toyota of BostonReviews
Parkway Toyota of Boston review
I’m always pleased with the service department at Prime Toyota especially Joe Walsh. He gets me in and out in a timely manner and explains everything and lets me know what step they are on. He was even able to take care of my recall during this service. Thanks again
2023 Ford F-150 review
Great truck from the looks and comfort, and most of all was klaben ford of Warren Ohio, terrific people highly recommended, my salesman Dom cook was great and The owner Mr Klaben was top notch!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.7L V6 24V PDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- P19268
- VIN
- 1FTEW2LP3SKE02367
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Marlboro NissanReviews
Marlboro Nissan review
Enjoyed the sales team. They were very helpful with my purchase of a new car. No pressure to buy and they made sure I understood all the options. Both of them were dedicated to making the process easier for me. Thank you!
2025 Ford F-150 review
I purchased a new 2025 XLT powerboost about a month ago. Got around 1500 miles on it. The overall performance of the truck is awesome. Its a good looking truck. I have added tint windows, hard bed cover and I am getting the upgraded leather package for it as well. The gas mileage is great and with hybrid it gets even better. The handling is good. The stop & go is also great. I went from a 2020 Nissan Titan to this F150 and must say I am impressed overall with the truck. I happy about the warranty that ford provided and look to maybe get the extended warranty when the time comes.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetic Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-18
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve co
- Stock #
- T15413A
- VIN
- 1FTFW1RG5LFB03186
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Rodman FordReviews
Rodman Ford review
Excellent buying experience, very responsive and reliable sales person in Jim L. Would definitely shop here again and highly recommend them to anyone searching for a used car.
2020 Ford F-150 review
I was searching for a specific vehicle and I found a few on cars.com. 2020 F-150 Super Cab 2.7L Ecoboost, 10 speed transmission. At first I was concerned since I've never had a truck with a small V6. I was looking for good HP and good MPG. I liked the sporty trim STX look. Great acceleration and great MPG. Much better than my previous 2006 F-150 5.4L, which was a great truck, but it was time for a change. I do recommend this vehicle if you want MPG, power, and great towing capacity.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-18
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- N6000388A
- VIN
- 1FTFW1RGXSFC16386
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Nucar Honda of NorwoodReviews
Nucar Honda of Norwood review
We purchased a used Honda Pilot from Boch Honda. The sales staff was friendly and we were not pressured during the process. On the second day after the vehicle was delivered to us we had transmission trouble, the dashboard light was flashing with a check transmission warning light. We called the dealership and spoke with Bill about our issue with the vehicle. Boch Honda came to our house to pick up the vehicle, they replaced the bad transmission and a week later returned the repaired vehicle to our driveway. They gave us a one year warranty on the work, we couldn’t be happier with this dealership.
2025 Ford F-150 review
Love this truck. Rides and drives great. Looks fantastic and I myself would not drive any other brand. Tried Chevy a few years ago and hated it so much I only kept it 1 year before going back to Ford and I will not change.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-24
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L PowerBoost Full-Hybrid V6
- Stock #
- AB7358XA
- VIN
- 1FTFW1ED7MFB45498
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Autobahn USA DedhamReviews
Autobahn USA Dedham review
They did a good job with answering my questions and got back to me in a timely manner
2021 Ford F-150 review
This F150 has been a dream to own. Looking for cash to buy a 67-68 restored Camaro. No issues every - just smooth riding up and down the interstate - taking kids to ballgames and skiing and college. empty nester now.
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$40,900
Est. $742/mo Colonial South Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Oxford White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed A/T
- Engine
- EcoBoost 2.7L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, Ti-VCT variable v
- Stock #
- 22447A
- VIN
- 1FTEW2LP4RKF13018
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Colonial South Chrysler Jeep Dodge RamReviews
Colonial South Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram review
I am happy with service. Thank you for the repairs and service that I have received. I will continue being a customer here and will share with others.
2024 Ford F-150 review
Overall, I love my 2024 STX 4x4 Supercrew. It's comfortable, reliable, and gets great gas mileage with the 2.7 ecoboost. I had one small repair done under warranty that took less than 3 hours and I have over 13k miles on it. My only mild complaints are that the ride could be more forgiving over bumpy pavement and that the turning radius was better.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- PV5973I
- VIN
- 1FTFW1E88PKF00631
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Mastria Volkswagen of RaynhamReviews
Mastria Volkswagen of Raynham review
I recently had a fantastic experience purchasing a new car from the dealership, thanks to the exceptional service provided by the salesman, Hiltion. He was incredibly knowledgeable, patient, and attentive to all my needs and questions. Hiltion made the entire process smooth and enjoyable, ensuring I found the perfect car for my requirements. I highly recommend him and the dealership for anyone looking to buy a new vehicle.
2023 Ford F-150 review
I have 2 F150s. A 2013 with 286,000 miles and a 2017 with 152,000 miles. They both run perfect and they are very impressive vehicles. I owned a 1500 Z71 prior and that was basically junk.
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