Used Lexus SC 430 for sale near me
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- Black
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- Black
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- 19-25
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- Gasoline
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- Automatic
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- 4.3L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
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- 54L1276P
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- JTHFN48Y669001928
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Lexus of WichitaReviews
Lexus of Wichita review
We bought a Lexus from here today. By FAR the best buying experience I’ve had. I had originally inquired about this vehicle a month prior but it was already reserved. The original buyer dropped out so Rosalie Isern contacted me. Ms Rosalie was very knowledgeable- she informed us of everything about the car and all the warranties and got our phones set up with it. They gave a very fair trade in value for our vehicle and were very kind and courteous throughout the whole process. Definitely recommend.
2006 Lexus SC 430 review
I had an eye on this car for years and was finally able to purchase it pre-owned from the Lexus dealership with 81k original miles. I have had it for 1 year now and I am happy. For its age, it is a very Comfortable ride, powerful V8 engine, Reliable, and still in great condition. I have replaced the ML factory sound system with new speakers, sub and amp. Overall Love this ride. Hoping to have it for many years to come.
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- Ext. color
- Black Onyx
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- Ecru
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- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
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- Gasoline
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- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V8 32V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 6B5293PM
- VIN
- JTHFN48Y230038619
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Golden Circle ChevroletReviews
Golden Circle Chevrolet review
Golden circle is very recommended they are very well mannered and help me in good timing. I will not buy from anyone else..Highly recommended very nice employees
2003 Lexus SC 430 review
This is a fun, smooth, peppy, beautiful car. I love it. Amazing interior. Great to ride with top down. One of the best cars I have ever owned,
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- Ext. color
- Black Onyx
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- Saddle
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- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
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- Gasoline
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- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- P0055
- VIN
- JTHFN48Y620010319
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- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Legacy Motors Auto Group LLCReviews
Legacy Motors Auto Group LLC review
Have you ever wanted to attend a Mecum Collectors auto show? If so, you have to visit Legacy Motors Auto Group, LLC, a used car lot on route 11 between Danville and Bloomsburg, with a carefully curated collection of premium brands. Our salesman Skip was totally first class from greeting us as we entered the lot til we drove out the next day in our new-to-us, used, beautiful, BMW X7. Although the business is relatively new, Skip is a veteran in the car business and can really show you around a car you are looking at, the guy knows cars. So, if you're looking for a car and you can't find it, "it's worth the trip to buy from Skip". Thanks Skip and you too, Brandon, true gentlemen and easy to deal with.
2002 Lexus SC 430 review
I looked for a sc430 for about a year finally found a 2002 that was owned by a retired dentist this thing is cherry it still needs struts and a radiator along with timing belt. Already fixed oil leaks and tires along with control arms.153 thousand miles and it turns heads fun to drive love this car much more than my 350 Z
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- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Saddle Tan
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5 Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 012569
- VIN
- JTHFN48Y620012569
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- Convenience
- Heated Seats
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- DVD Player
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
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- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Preferred ImportsReviews
Preferred Imports review
Bob was very quick to respond to help us find the right loan that helped us purchase the vehicle. He was friendly and never pushy!
2002 Lexus SC 430 review
Tengo una llevo más de cuatro años con el carrito es muy divertido se maneja bien y es muy deportivo a muchas personas les gusta el carro, aunque a veces se me fue algunas cosas pero lo reparé y salió como nuevecito y soy muy feliz con mi carrito ☺️😍
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- Ext. color
- Green
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- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 54L1284P
- VIN
- JTHFN48Y540059207
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- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
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- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
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- Alloy Wheels
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
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- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Lexus of WichitaReviews
Lexus of Wichita review
Just bought the brand new Lexus RX350! So excited Haris helped us find the perfect car! He was extremely helpful and gave us straight forward answers to any questions we asked! Would definitely recommend you ask for Haris when you walk in the door!
2004 Lexus SC 430 review
We were looking for a Lexus Sedan for my wife, and I wanted a more sporty vehicle. In the past I’ve had Vettes and several 380Z’s, as I aged it was not as easy to get into and out of. So we never had heard of the LexusSC until the salesman at the dealership said I think I have the perfect car for you. He said I think you’ll love the LexusSC we got in a week ago. A 2004 convertible with 32,000 miles. Silver with a black interior. That peaked our interest and we drove it. We fell in love. A silver Beauty with a retractable electric convertible top. Sold! We’ll have this one for a long time. We’re both in our 80’s so who knows how long we’ll be around to enjoy this little honey of an auto. We’ll do our best.
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- Ext. color
- Millennium Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- No Color
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 1756
- VIN
- JTHFN48Y530045886
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- Heated Seats
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Moaven MotorsReviews
Moaven Motors review
good service good people new cars they have a lot a good things and I don’t know really what to say but everything here is clear. Could look cute people treat customer very good when you wanna buy something here you’ll find it whatever you want.
2003 Lexus SC 430 review
I am a big Lexus fan so when my wife decided that she wanted an SC430 I was very excited. Just on the legendary 4.3L V8 alone it was a no brainer but combine that with full power hardtop convertible , rear wheel drive, and all of the luxury and quality that Lexus puts into everything that they make , this car is a winner.
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- Ext. color
- White Gold Crystal
- Int. color
- Ecru
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 50061440
- VIN
- JTHFN48Y850061440
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- Convenience
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Silverton MotorsReviews
Silverton Motors review
Thank you to johnemy and david for assisting me with my purchase of my jeep liberty they went above and beyond and made sure i drove away with my car thank you guys so much i most definitely recommend anyone to them.
2005 Lexus SC 430 review
I have had a Lexus 430 SC for 8 years I love this car.I had a Mita before,.wanted a heavier car to drive on the interstate.this car is a dream very smooth ride. Easy top Down....had very little problems. It's unique and beautiful....I love the back seat..great for a dog or child or your coat and purse. . The mita had nothing...no it's not for everyone, but I like it....better than any new car....Getting ready for a new timing Belt , which they say will take care of most of the maintenance for long time. It is a 2004. They only made this car 2002 to 2010..
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- Ext. color
- Indigo Ink Pearl
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- Black
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- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L 8 CYLINDER
- Stock #
- T8572
- VIN
- JTHFN48Y520016788
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- Convenience
- Heated Seats
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- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Driven Auto of WaukeganReviews
Driven Auto of Waukegan review
I purchased a beautiful Ford Excursion from Driven Auto of Waukegan last month, and the experience was wonderful from start to finish. Oscar was my salesman, and he was excellent. He kindly sent every photo and video I requested and was incredibly thorough, patient, and prompt in responding to all of my questions and concerns. At no point did he pressure me to make a quick purchase, which I truly appreciated. He is a wonderful asset to the team. We also spoke with Dave and Andy, managers at Driven Auto, several times, and they went above and beyond to review and resolve an after-purchase hiccup. Their willingness to help and make things right meant a great deal to us. I can’t thank the Driven Auto of Waukegan team enough for their help throughout the entire process. Highly recommend!
2002 Lexus SC 430 review
I purchased a 2002 SC430, black on black, with only 49,000 miles on it. Love everything about the car, it's looks, how it drives. I keep it in ECT Power mode to get that bit more impooh when I hit the accelerator. Since it's a Lexus, I'm not worried about reliability and only having to do basic maintenance. The only major upgrade to the car I've done is new tires and a rearview camera. Minor upgrades have been bluetooth and some new lighting.
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- Ext. color
- Millennium Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Ecru
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- SMC5751
- VIN
- JTHFN48Y250068688
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- Convenience
- Heated Seats
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- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Southern Motor CompanyReviews
Southern Motor Company review
Excellent from beginning of the process to the end. I couldn’t be happier and more satisfied with Chad and the way things were handled. The big stores could learn alot from these folks. Beautiful car at a great price and no pressure. My go to place for all future cars.
2005 Lexus SC 430 review
I have an ‘05 in indigo ink pearl, it drives super smooth and looks great! A lot of people have no love for the wheels, but I think it just adds to the unique quirky nature of the car, personally I love them. A good thing about the wheels, is they can be changed to something even more hideous, if you like. This car is never going to light the world on fire, but most people that see it, have never seen one before and I get compliments all the time.
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- Black
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- Black
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- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- A/T
- Engine
- 300.0HP 4.3L 8 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- JTHFN48Y269009640
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2006 Lexus SC 430 review
The Lexus SC430 should rank among the best cars ever made, in spite of what the hosts said in Top Gear many years ago. It is a design that was ahead of its time. The convertible mechanical top on my 2006 has never failed me. The upholstery has held up flawlessly - and every button works. Admittedly, the wheels on the production models were unattractive, but that was an easy fix and I replaced the run flat tires for standard Michelins. The V-8 engine purrs and works effortlessly. People think - 18 years later - my car is brand new. This car is hands down the most solid vehicle I've ever driven and was destined to become a classic from the first day it rolled off the assembly line. BTW, wasn't the host that did the Top Gear review eventually terminated?
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- Ext. color
- Gray
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- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic Electronic with Intelligence
- Engine
- 4.3L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- SZ10013C
- VIN
- JTHFN45Y779010563
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- Convenience
- Heated Seats
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- Bluetooth®
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
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- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Viti, Inc.Reviews
Viti, Inc. review
The point of contact got back to me quickly and I appreciate that. Mentioned that I would be in the area on May 24-31 to drive thge car if still available. I don't like buying sight unseen. The car looks beautiful.
2007 Lexus SC 430 review
Very smooth V8 engine/transmission, faster than most cars, the interior is perfect for me 6ft tall, sound system has some deep bass, I would marry my sc430 and I believe my sc430 would get the "Will" built to last, til deff du us
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- Ext. color
- Green
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- Rear-wheel Drive
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- 19-25
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- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- UL00904B
- VIN
- JTHFN48Y169008270
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- Convenience
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- Bluetooth®
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- Alloy Wheels
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Plaza LincolnReviews
Plaza Lincoln review
Outstanding experience from start to finish. Rick was very supportive, not pushy, and extremely helpful. Promises he made , were kept. Night and day from previous purchase from a dealer in the same area.
2006 Lexus SC 430 review
This fine car is a Rolex on wheels! I enjoy just admiring it in my garage! And my wife and I thoroughly enjoy every drive we take on the California coast and wine country!
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- Ext. color
- Millennium Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V8 32V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- A024345
- VIN
- JTHFN48Y020024345
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- Convenience
- Navigation System
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- Alloy Wheels
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Tim Traycik Motors, Inc.Reviews
Tim Traycik Motors, Inc. review
Comfortable and excellent car-buying experience. Most important is I felt they were trustworthy. They were friendly and there was no pressure. Car I chose was in excellent condition with low mileage.
2002 Lexus SC 430 review
I previously owned a Nissan late model 370Z. My wife stressed about riding in it even when driven with her anxieties in mind. I replaced it with a 2002 SC430 with an indigo blue paint job, that I love. Like many other reviews, I had all struts replaced, new timing belt and water pump and new tires (got run flats but regular pneumatic smoother). Engine and tranny runs smooth as silk. A/C is ice cold. Mileage was 145,000, no accidents. Interior is extremely clean with white leather seats. In four months ownership, I have had several inquisitors ask about the car. Complements too. Drive this for the design beauty, quality ride and sound mechanical attributes. I don’t put much value in calls for classic status, just as I doubt Beanie Babies value. Own it for your personal satisfaction.
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- Ext. color
- Smoky Granite
- Int. color
- Camel
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- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L 8 CYLINDER
- Stock #
- 8789
- VIN
- JTHFN45Y279015489
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- Sunroof/Moonroof
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
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- Stability Control
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- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Driven Auto of WaukeganReviews
Driven Auto of Waukegan review
Dave is a great guy to work with. He knows the product and he was exceptional in explaining all of the options we had. We will continue to purchase cars from Dave and his crew for years to come. Thank you again, Dave... Keep up the great work!!!! Tim and Sara A
2007 Lexus SC 430 review
Comfort, reliability, ageless. Just like a vintage bottle of wine. A keeper as long as you give a little TLC occasionally. This is the most underrated vehicle and well kept secret by a few proud owners. Every used SC430 on the currently on the road looks fantastic. I was surprised how good it was on gas, I have been averaging 23 MPG in a very comfortable ride. Keeping mine original and mint condition.
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- Ext. color
- Black Onyx
- Int. color
- Saddle
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- T2121A
- VIN
- JTHFN48Y140059382
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
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- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Automart SuperstoreReviews
2004 Lexus SC 430 review
These cars are an amazing value. Quite simply many people hate the styling. Hence a low price. Nothing I write matters on this. You like it or don’t or put up with it for the value. The interior is simply stunning. Other than a Bentley I had no other car I’ve seen is nicer inside. Quality materials. Nice leather. Stunning real wood. And unlike anything else a way to cover the nav screen with a wood door. Stereo is excellent. Ride quality is fantastic for long trips. No. Not a super fast car in corners. Fast enough and very comfortable. Engine is silky smooth and whisper quiet. Except when you floor it you get that v8 growl. Again not a dragster but plenty powerful enough. The roof is magic. A hardtop coupe most of the time but a fantastic open top with minimal buffeting. Reliable. Very reliable. Excellent Lexus service if needed. Our 2004 has merely 60k miles and zero repairs. Many of these are low miles. Toyota reliability is a great comfort. Big and heavy and safe. Plenty of airbags and great brakes. Mass is safer than lighter cars. Do the negative? It is not easy on gas. Styling is either love or hate. Navigation system cannot be updated and CarPlay is not available although there are kits to add it including nav music and phone. So the electronic toys are dated. To give you an idea my new car is a Porsche 911. Modern. But on long trips or just getting from A to Z the Lexus is first choice. Porsche is more modern and exciting but … not as beautiful inside nor comfortable. I totally recommend this if the styling and gas mileage and electronics are not an issue. The value is unbelievable and unbeatable.
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- Ext. color
- Blue
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4.3L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 263762A
- VIN
- JTHFN48Y050063800
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Avondale ToyotaReviews
Avondale Toyota review
I had inquired on a few cars... It's all about timing and I found two cars I liked. I worked with the salesperson prior to coming into the dealership so we had a pretty clear understanding. I also prequalified. Then, I came by and Tony treated me respectfully and answered my numerous questions. In the end, I like my purchase and would probably return to this dealership if a different car was needed OR when I need service.
2005 Lexus SC 430 review
Did not love the styling at first but it's really growing on me.Looks way better in person than pictures. Very comfortable ride and quiet, top up or down. If you want to address the acceleration concern look to sc430mods.com they sell an accelerator modulator $99. It turns this car into a beast! and you can vary the rate of acceleration. This makes the car xxxx and git. love the mod, plug and play too. Also someone ask about backup camera, they also have a plug and play camera set up that lets you go right through the nav system, come on in reverse and goes back to nav all the rest of the time. Also added a bluetooth receiver $20 on amazon. my 2002 has a aux in the back so it plugs right in, press fm if aux comes up on screen it has a direct connect, sounds awesome. only early models had this I think. This is one great car!
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- Ext. color
- Burgundy
- Int. color
- White
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic, 6-Spd w/Overdrive
- Engine
- 4.3L V-8 DOHC, variable valve control, premium unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- B3922
- VIN
- JTHFN48YX69009983
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Zee Motors IncReviews
Zee Motors Inc review
I bought a used car from Loui at Zee Motors about two years ago, and I couldn’t be happier with the entire experience. From the moment I walked in, the staff was professional, honest, and extremely helpful. They gave me a fair value on my trade-in and made the whole process smooth and stress-free. Even after two years, my car has been running great and has proven to be a solid, reliable purchase. It really shows that they stand behind the quality of the vehicles they sell. I also appreciated that there was never any pressure just straightforward, friendly service. If you’re looking for a dealership that’s trustworthy and customer-focused, I highly recommend Zee Motors. I’ll definitely be coming back when it’s time for my next car!
2006 Lexus SC 430 review
My wife and myself purchased our 2005 SC430 this year,2022, and we love it! We have had some work done on it since we bought it,having plugs replaced, timing belt changed and the like, but nothing you wouldn't have had done on a car that is 18 years old. As far as value goes, we think we got a good deal considering that it is in top shape overall.
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