Used passenger vans for sale in Palmyra, WI
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$30,494
Est. $548/mo Griffin Ford
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Summit White
- Int. color
- Medium Pewter
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Overdrive
- Engine
- 4.3L V-6 direct injection, variable valve control, regular gasol
- Stock #
- P31761
- VIN
- 1GAZGLFP3P1251116
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Griffin FordReviews
Griffin Ford review
It was mostly a good experience, but there were a few instances where we felt pressured or where the sales person could have been more accommodating.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 direct injection, i-VTEC variable valve control, regula
- Stock #
- V034A
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H91RB000687
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Rock County HondaReviews
Rock County Honda review
It's unpleasant and painful to be reminded that only two items of maintenance on just one car - replacing transmission fluid and flushing brake line - would cost just short of $400. For senior citizens on a very fixed income in this economy, that is hard. Yet the work was necessary, and the dealership gave me a discount. For that I am grateful. It seems that the work was done properly as well as promptly.
2024 Honda Odyssey review
An excellent comfortable kid hauler. Or if you prefer to haul a furniture it will get the job done better than a pickup truck. We love our Odyssey. This is our third Odyssey having owned a 2007. 2013 and now a 2024.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Pacific Pewter Metallic
- Int. color
- Mocha
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 direct injection, i-VTEC variable valve control, regula
- Stock #
- PB039550A
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H60PB039550
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Wilde HondaReviews
Wilde Honda review
We are from the Fox Valley and have purchased a few vehicles from Wilde in the past and are willing to take the drive because of the excellent experience we receive and this time was no different. Paul Basile met us as soon as we got out of our vehicle (it was Labor day weekend so it was crazy busy) and we are glad he chose us. He was extremely knowledgable on the Ridgelines which was exactly what we came for. He didn’t waste our time, gave us options and got us test driving quickly. We found ‘the one’ that was right for us. Paul made sure we had everything we needed and was great to chat with while waiting for finance to do their thing. I highly recommend working with Paul!
2023 Honda Odyssey review
This is my second Honda Odyssey Elite having traded in my 2019 for a 2023. Why did I make the trade? I hadn't had any problems with my 2019, but the trade in value of my 2019 made the purchase of a 2023 a "no brainer". I had considered purchasing a Toyota Sienna Platinum because of the fuel economy. But the price of the Toyota was so much higher than the Honda, especially when you consider that the Rear Seat Entertainment System costs extra on the Toyota and dealers are adding premiums above MSRP. I calculated I would have to drive the a Toyota around 80,000 miles before I would actually begin saving money on gasoline.
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$30,773
Est. $554/mo Wilde Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Diamond Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- SR569634P
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG1SR569634
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Wilde Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Wilde Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
Dealt with Ryan in Sales and Jeana in financing. Two of the best people I've ever worked with. Ryan went well above and beyond trying to make my experience pleasurable. He is the hardest, most sincere salesperson I've ever had the privilege of dealing with. I wish all sales people had his character and work ethic! Jeana was an absolute sweetheart in financial. She didn't try to sell me anything extra, just the basics to keep me covered. You can tell she loves just helping people get only what they need. High quality character and an absolute pleasure to "work" with!
2025 Chrysler Pacifica review
Nice vehicle. We purchased new...price was one reason why compared to other vans. Our old vehicle was a Town & Country, this vehicle has some pleasant surprises. Better power and a better ride. Handling & response are very good, not clumsy like some vans. Great safety features throughout the vehicle. Things I don't like... the power rear side flare windows are gone and there isn't as much storage . In order to get better storage, you have to upgrade to higher end models. No overhead storage panel in some models. I certainly don't like the fact that there is no spare tire anymore but I know that the car industry is moving that way, which is just a cost saving measure for them. Door protection side strips have disappeared - they used to just be a standard item but now, are an "option", which is pretty lame. Roof pillars tend to cause more obstruction in my view as I'm driving but the Pacifica has alert safety features that are helpful. Information screen is pretty easy on Chrysler. Overall, its a nice vehicle.
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$21,503
Est. $387/mo Kunes Chevrolet Cadillac of Delavan
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Mist Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 02P2724
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG3RR132736
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Kunes Chevrolet Cadillac of DelavanReviews
Kunes Chevrolet Cadillac of Delavan review
Excellent, professional, friendly, and quick service keeps me a loyal customer of Kunes Country Chevrolet. Second time buying a vehicle at this location and was completely satisfied by the service each time.
2024 Chrysler Pacifica review
This car is very nice very comfortable got power jet black inside white and black and it only had 42,000 mi we love the car thank you
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- P3629
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG9TR177700
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Miller MotorsReviews
Miller Motors review
Kenny Daniels was great to work with! He made it a very smooth and easy process.
2026 Chrysler Pacifica review
Big delay in the apple Carplay starting up. Plus the adaptive cruise control is not smooth at all. We have a 2019 Toyota Camry and its ACC is much smoother than the one in the 2026 Pacifica. The ride itself is comfortable. We had 5 adults and everyone had plenty of room.
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$18,995
Est. $342/mo Ewald Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram of Oconomowoc
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Billet Silver Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Diesel Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- CN3456A
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG2HR744692
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ewald Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram of OconomowocReviews
Ewald Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram of Oconomowoc review
THIS WAS AN OFF SITE WAREHOUSE SALE. I LOOKED AT A USED TRUCK. IT WASN'T WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. THE SALES PEOPLE WERE VERY POLITE AND FRIENDLY. AND NO HIGH PRESSURE. IT WAS A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE MORE THAN AT MOST USED CAR SALES.
2017 Chrysler Pacifica review
Have owned 6 pacificas and they are great. We get about 30 mpg on the highway. Can’t complain except the nav system needs some work.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 direct injection, i-VTEC variable valve control, regula
- Stock #
- 2547
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H77MB026458
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
JON GREEN FAMILY AUTOReviews
2021 Honda Odyssey review
Bought the 2021 EX-L model end of 2023 with 21,000 miles. I test drive the Sienna and was very disappointed in every aspect which led me to the Oddessy which I had not previously considered. One test drive and I was sold. The amount of space for my three kids to sit comfortably, the ample trunk space, the magic slide seats, automatic sliding doors & heated seats with a sunroof are among my favorite things about this minivan. It's fun to drive and has plenty of power with its 280hp. As long as you have proper snow tires in snowy conditions, this FWD minivan will do just fine. I had no issues in squalls and other winter conditions. I took my snow tires off prematurely and got caught in a winter storm and hit a guard rail and my whole family was safe and sound with no injuries. It has since been repaired back to its original condition. Keep your winter tires on til late Spring to be safe. I will absolutely drive this thing til the wheels fall off and then I'll buy another. Thank you Honda for keeping the Oddessy in your lineup! I hope it never goes away.
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$26,968
Est. $485/mo Ewald Chrysler Jeep Dodge RAM
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- DP56648
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG9SR517157
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Ewald Chrysler Jeep Dodge RAMReviews
Ewald Chrysler Jeep Dodge RAM review
Bob Groover is amazing, he is an authority on ram trucks and I truly appreciate his expertise. Ewald is a great dealership, and I plan to come back!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29147866
- VIN
- 2C4RC1GG8TR182077
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
CarMax WaukeshaReviews
CarMax Waukesha review
I just wanted to say that Valerie is exceptionally awesome! She is so kind and helpful, and the entire service team is fantastic. Thank you all for such a great experience!
2026 Chrysler Pacifica review
Great car. I also have a 2018 with 100K plus miles that has had zero problems. Comfortable, good. fuel economy and can haul a lot of stuff.
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$38,499
Est. $692/mo Lynch Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Brilliant Black Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- EP4140
- VIN
- 2C4RC3GG9PR585289
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Lynch Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Lynch Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
This Car Dealership is a Wheel-y Good Time -- and So's Their Salesman Brandon! I recently had the pleasure of working with Brandon at the car dealership and let me tell you, this guy is the real deal! He's got more car knowledge in his pinky finger than most people have in their entire brain. Plus, he's got the charm and friendliness of a golden retriever. If you're in the market for a new ride, skip the other guys and hit up Brandon at this dealership. He'll treat you like a dear friend (and maybe even sneak in some car jokes).
2023 Chrysler Pacifica review
Andrick was very nice and very helpful. I don't have the best credit or a good down payment but he did everything possible to get me into a car. Very helpful!
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$46,301
New 2027 Honda Odyssey Touring
$50,191
New 2027 Honda Odyssey Elite
$53,786
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$49,021
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$44,243
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$42,611
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$54,950
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$55,425
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$47,515
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Sky Metallic
- Int. color
- Ash
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic Electronic with Overdrive
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 SMPI DOHC
- Stock #
- N90315
- VIN
- 5TDKK3DC9FS594683
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Wilde ToyotaReviews
Wilde Toyota review
Jim Blake was exceptionally helpful in making the purchase of my Prius as painless as possible. He was also available after the purchase was completed for questions.
2015 Toyota Sienna review
Great reliable cars. Bought mine at over 150k miles and it still runs like a champ. Car had been maintained regularly by the previous owner which is what is necessary to prolong its life and I intend to continue doing the same.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetic Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 36-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE/VVT-i
- Stock #
- PRS2929
- VIN
- 5TDKRKEC7SS260585
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Toyota of BrookfieldReviews
Toyota of Brookfield review
Very nice visit. The salesmen were very accommodating and very informative. I appreciate their honesty.
2025 Toyota Sienna review
If you are looking for a vehicle that gets good gas mileage and long range then the Toyota Hybrid is for you. On the open road you can get over 35 miles to the gallon and go slightly over 500 miles on a tank of gas.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Astra Blue
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- KPTK7309
- VIN
- KNDNC5H31R6350918
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Russ Darrow Waukesha KiaReviews
Russ Darrow Waukesha Kia review
The salesman Dennis was awesome. The sales manner juror was unprofessional to say the least..
2024 Kia Carnival review
Came in on a used Carnival and ended up buying a new one. Our sales person was Dave Sabitini and he was very knowledgeable. He treated us like family. Would highly recommend Vandevere Kia
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Celestial Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 36-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE/VVT-i
- Stock #
- K27289A
- VIN
- 5TDYRKEC9NS096299
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Russ Darrow Kia of WauwatosaReviews
Russ Darrow Kia of Wauwatosa review
Fantastic employee assistance and buying experience. Huge thanks to “LJ” and Dogan for getting me hooked up with an amazing Toyota Camry
2022 Toyota Sienna review
Sales guy Jhon was very enthusiastic and helped us buy the car we wanted. He also helped us with all the procedures and secured a good price. Thank you. The accountant was also very good and patiently helped us organize our cash. As we decided to buy a car in full, we provided a lot of small denomination banknotes. She patiently answered my questions and helped us count the banknotes. Thank you.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Astra Blue
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve contro
- Stock #
- K27318A
- VIN
- KNDNC5H31R6400992
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Russ Darrow Kia of WauwatosaReviews
Russ Darrow Kia of Wauwatosa review
During our recent visit to Russ Darrow Wauwatosa Kia to check out the pre-owned car options, I was lucky to be assisted by "Brianna Holbrook" —she was friendly, professional, and made the experience enjoyable. She was clearly invested in helping me find the right car from the very beginning, with patience and professionalism, they walked me through the vehicle’s history, specifications, and overall condition, addressing my queries with clear and honest responses, I especially appreciated their transparency about pricing and willingness to accommodate a test drive without pressure. Thanks to Brianna professionalism and friendly approach, I felt confident and well-informed throughout the process. Brianna Holbrook is an outstanding Sales & Leasing Consultant, and I wholeheartedly recommend her to anyone seeking reliable and supportive service. The gorgeous Ford Edge SE is finally here! Huge Thanks to RUSS DARROW WAUWATOSA KIA.
2024 Kia Carnival review
I've had this car since I leased it when it was brand new. Just converted the lease to buying it. The car is roomy and has all the options you could ask for. The car is comfortable and does verywell on gas mileage on the highway.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Deep Chroma Blue
- Int. color
- Taupe
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- KPPS7236
- VIN
- KNDNB5K3XS6524132
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Russ Darrow Waukesha KiaReviews
Russ Darrow Waukesha Kia review
The sales staff at Russ Darrow Waukesha were a pleasure to work with and I am glad I chose to purchase my new Kia from them. They understood me as a prospective customer and tailored their assistance to fit my needs.
2025 Kia Carnival review
I traded a 2021 Telluride for the Carnival because it was more practical and versatile for transporting young children. Although they had the same trim levels, the quality of interior materials - seats, door panels, etc. - in the Telluride were superior to the Carnival. The "ride," handling and comfort of the Telluride also far exceeded that of the Carnival. I miss the Telluride but appreciate the functionally of the Carnival.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Smoke Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 direct injection, i-VTEC variable valve control, regula
- Stock #
- SB047778A
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H81SB047778
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Wilde HondaReviews
Wilde Honda review
Zaydan, Daryl, and Timothy went above and beyond during our visit to the dealership. Zaydan patiently walked us through multiple options, and Daryl and Timothy handled a complicated financing situation with patience, resourcefulness, and a firm commitment to see it through. The entire team was professional and supportive — we truly appreciate everything they did. Highly recommend these outstanding guys to anyone shopping for a car!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Smoke Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 direct injection, i-VTEC variable valve control, regula
- Stock #
- PRJ14849
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H62SB060506
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Russ Darrow Kia of WauwatosaReviews
Russ Darrow Kia of Wauwatosa review
This dealership is Awesome and easy to work with Will be back! Make sure you get your floor mats.
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$22,189
Est. $399/mo Russ Darrow Waukesha Kia
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Billet Silver Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- IKPRJ7311
- VIN
- 2C4RC3BG2MR566084
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Russ Darrow Waukesha KiaReviews
Russ Darrow Waukesha Kia review
Great place to make a great deal on a new Kia Seltos EX. All of the people working there were fabulous. They took that nasty, anxious edge of buying a car and tossed it right in the garbage 🗑️ Anna was a special lady and very informative and gracious to us. She answered all questions and helped iron out various small things along our journey at Russ Darrow in Waukesha. Best Deal Ben came alongside Anna and really helped to seal this deal for us. No problem or pressure for us at all. Anna listened to our story and empathized with us. She really helped us out. Shannon in finance was terrific and she went above and beyond to assist us, explaining different items and financing options for us. GREAT experience, please give Anna the Best salesperson award for at least the month of April 2024. Thanks again for the nice experience of buying from your dealership.
2021 Chrysler Pacifica review
We wanted another dodge Durango, until we drove a Pacifica, we love it and would recommend to anyone, it handles better than our Mercedes or jaguar
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 direct injection, i-VTEC variable valve control, regula
- Stock #
- T724A
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H86TB017774
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Rock County HondaReviews
Rock County Honda review
I received timely and quality service and am very satisfied with the results. The staff was friendly, helpful and knowledgeable. I will continue to have my vehicle serviced at Rock County Honda.
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$21,999
Est. $396/mo Wilde Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Mist Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC Hybrid
- Stock #
- PR618289P
- VIN
- 2C4RC1L78PR618289
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Wilde Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Wilde Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
I had an awesome experience at this dealership. Everyone I dealt with was very friendly and helpful. There was no need to haggle over pricing, they were upfront and fair in not only the cost of the vehicle I purchased but the trade in I had was priced more then fair. I live in Milwaukee and it was well worth the trip to Waukesha!!!
2023 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid review
I had a 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5 (that I absolutely loved), but the lease was ending. Since that purchase, I have had two grandchildren, and though I could take them with me in the Ioniq, it was a tight squeeze (again, it was a GREAT car). I decided I needed something with more seating, which meant a three row SUV or a minivan. I was used to an all electric vehicle and wanted to get something that was at least hybrid. I honestly thought my days of a minivan were way behind me when my children got older so I was kind of dreading that option. The truth is I couldn't be happier. The mileage has been fantastic - I've been averaging about 50 mpg. Because the van is a plug-in hybrid, I drive a lot of local miles on all electric which helps immensely with the mileage. There is plenty of room for my kids (and their kids). Lots of places to plug in all of their devices. My wife's aunt told me that the back seats were incredibly comfortable as well. The only thing I wish it had were a few more amenities - but that is entirely my fault. I bought it used and picked up the first decently priced one I found. I should have waited a bit for one that was a bit more loaded, but again, that's on my, not the vehicle. The ride is incredibly smooth and the power is just fine for a minivan - obviously not what I was used to with the EV, but then I don't expect that. I'm enjoying driving in comfort and getting in and out is much more comfortable on my old back!
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$33,632
Est. $605/mo Kunes Chevrolet GMC of Lake Geneva
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Smoke Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 direct injection, i-VTEC variable valve control, regula
- Stock #
- 30P1177
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H61SB082349
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Kunes Chevrolet GMC of Lake GenevaReviews
Kunes Chevrolet GMC of Lake Geneva review
Out in 45 minutes. Great clean service center. Service techs, Bob & Jon, are polite and professional. Car was parked right outside the entrance. Thank you for always providing a good experience. Jim Fus
2025 Honda Odyssey review
This is our fourth and couldn't think of riding in anything other. Have spent ZERO on anything other than normal maintenance. Oil change, Tires, Battery. Love HONDA!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Burgundy
- Int. color
- TAUPE
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70196533
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H76LB017233
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
CarMax WaukeshaReviews
CarMax Waukesha review
i did my homework prior to our recent purchase of a low mileage used Mercedes. One of my primary information sources was Cars.Com. and the other was Car Max. We visited the Kenosha Car Max and found everyone we had contact with to be professional and informative. We ultimately bought a car from a Mercedes dealer but did sell our trade to Car Max Waukesha. The experience was handled quickly and pleasantly. I would definitely recommend Car Max and their staff.
2020 Honda Odyssey review
I've owned two Odysseys over the past 20 years,with the 2020 being the one we currently own. The 2020 has proven to be just as reliable as our other Odyssey and the Honda Accords that we've owned. The 2020 Odyssey has a smooth ride, comfortable attractive interior. The Magic seating system makes this van even more flexible for hauling loads of kids and family, while being able to quickly change to hauling lots of cargo.
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$7,495
Est. $135/mo Blue Line Auto Sales & MKE Motor Cars
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Desert Sand Mica
- Int. color
- Taupe
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- 080308
- VIN
- 5TDZK22C37S080308
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Blue Line Auto Sales & MKE Motor CarsReviews
Blue Line Auto Sales & MKE Motor Cars review
In a pinch we got what we were looking for. We were down one car and needed an AWD replacement we could rely on after putting a ton of money into our junker. Upon first meeting, the owner Jeff took the time on his day off to show us his inventory of Subaru’s and we couldn’t be happier with the outback we purchased. I felt confident in its reliability and felt comfortable knowing Jeff was an honest guy that wouldn’t leave us hanging. Would definitely recommend!
2007 Toyota Sienna review
Having problems with the driver side, side door and rear door. Rear door is coming down when you are still standing under it. Side door won't close,or unlock properly.
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$25,999
Est. $468/mo Russ Darrow Kia of Wauwatosa
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Pantera Metal
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable valve contro
- Stock #
- K27197A
- VIN
- KNDNE5H36N6182519
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Russ Darrow Kia of WauwatosaReviews
Russ Darrow Kia of Wauwatosa review
Took my wife's car for basic oil change and tire rotation. Our Advisor was very friendly the sales reps didn't bug us to buy a car and gor that I will keep going there for our car needs.
2022 Kia Carnival review
AMAZING MPV!! Bought 2022 SX Prestige with captain chairs in May 2021. Had 175,000 miles and drove like new. Only did Oil changes/tire rotations and filters (easy to change by yourself) and new tires 2x and a new battery at 150k was all I had to Maintenance. Was very spacious for up to 4 adults but too small for 7 adults. My last one was a total loss but would love another one. Was awesome in snow with all weather tires.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Celestial Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- T8936A
- VIN
- 5TDKZ3DC8LS079410
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Brookfield Buick GMCReviews
Brookfield Buick GMC review
Everyone was very polite and friendly Tim was very helpful and and courteous he went above and beyond to get my car repaired and can?t wait to come back in for normal service
2020 Toyota Sienna review
My car needs and life changed suddenly and a rethink of what I was driving made me choose a used Sienna with the idea of needing more room for camping, camping gear and possabilities of cargo hauling.
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$53,994
Est. $971/mo Gordie Boucher Lincoln of West Allis
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Arctic White
- Int. color
- Fabric Maturin Black
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 diesel direct injection, DOHC, intercooled turbo, diesel,
- Stock #
- PA11455
- VIN
- W1Z4KGHY7ST211994
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Gordie Boucher Lincoln of West AllisReviews
Gordie Boucher Lincoln of West Allis review
The sales people were very responsive. The only obstacle to completing the deal was they wouldn’t match Carvana’s price for my trade in and I wanted to get everything done in one neat package.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- grey
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.3L V6 F DOHC 24V
- Stock #
- 12854
- VIN
- KNDMB5C14J6375725
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Car KingReviews
Car King review
Had a wonderful experience. Gary Austin and Terri took extremely good care of us :) I felt very cared for
2018 Kia Sedona review
I just purchased this KIA, lightly used, only 24500 miles. I had a 2008 KIA before this one, it served well for the 13 years that I owned it. Before that I owned a '94 Dodge Caravan and a '98 Town and Country. Chrysler makes prettier vehicles, but KIAs hold up. My last KIA had plenty of life left, but I got t-boned so hard the car flipped over! Praise the Lord, I walked away from that wreck! The car didn't make it, so I got another one. I was tempted by the Dodge GC, but ultimately, I trust KIA more. This KIA is spiffier than my old one, but I miss the simple, open design of the old one. The "safety tech" is more annoying than helpful, but it rides well, feels solid and well made. Overall: satisfied.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Alloy
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine
- Stock #
- P3489A
- VIN
- 2C4RC1EG5HR851352
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Janesville KiaReviews
Janesville Kia review
They seem like a reputable dealership, nice sales people, but, I couldn't get a definite answer why they could not offer the exact price on the car that you had it offered for. It was about $1200 more than your online ad.
2017 Chrysler Pacifica review
Been a great car high 20’s mpg at 85 mph going cross country . Recommend a quality extended warranty -parts are expensive . Wish you could be able to shift it manually
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 29126599
- VIN
- W1WV0FEY2P4235224
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
CarMax NashvilleReviews
CarMax Nashville review
Felt nothing like most experiences with dealer ships they were focused on your interest and needs and eager to make you happy thank you Evlen Zach you are super sweet
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Red
- Int. color
- GRAY
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70162984
- VIN
- 5BZAF0AA8LN850556
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
CarMax DaytonReviews
CarMax Dayton review
I purchased a vehicle on 2/16/2023. The process was fast and efficient. The staff was extremely helpful and there was zero sales pressure. The CarMax financing offer was as good as I had found independantly.