Used subcompact SUVs for sale near Willernie, MN
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- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- N1037551A
- VIN
- WA1EECF33N1037551
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Audi MinneapolisReviews
Audi Minneapolis review
This is a lovely dealership. Everyone is professional and friendly. We enjoyed working with Jeff Conlin as a sales representative as well as with Jenny in finance.
2022 Audi Q3 review
I usually lease my cars. I loved this one so much, I bought it. My only issue is that it was recalled 4 months after I purchased it. Sue to the supply chain issues, it took nearly 4 months for the parts to fix it. I did have a loaner for the 4 months, but it was disappointing. I love the car and would purchase again.
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- Ext. color
- Aspen White Tricoat
- Int. color
- Sport
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, CVTCS variable valve control, regular unleaded, eng
- Stock #
- P11569
- VIN
- 3N8AP6DB2SL345975
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Luther Bloomington HyundaiReviews
Luther Bloomington Hyundai review
I’ve bought cars from Bloomington Luther Hyundai in the past, and their service in sales, service, and management has been stellar. Nate Drobnick is a joy to work with, and felt his friendliness and professionalism is outstanding.
2025 Nissan Kicks review
Only had my 2025 kicks sv a few months , 4k miles but I like it a lot , look , style, drives well and it very comfortable. Love all the included safety features that other car companies charge extra for . Gas mileage is incredible. Gave it a 5 across the board, as my last 3 new cars have been a Colorado , for maverick and jeep wrangler. Cost , value of the redesign kicks is much better imop . Dash layout and how easy everything is to use .
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- RED
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28392526
- VIN
- 3MVDMBCM3SM800032
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax IndependenceReviews
CarMax Independence review
Carmax has a wide variety of used cars to check out if you are not sure what you want. We found a 2018 Hyundai Sante Fe Sport with less than 8000 miles. Very nice vehicle that is roomy with lots of cool options. My sales agent was very nice, no pressure and we were in and out in less than 15 minutes to sign the paperwork. I would buy from Carmax again!
2025 Mazda CX-30 review
Mazda is comfortable, I'm in my 70's Reliable, rides great, great on gas. Something that is great on the road, Able to handle, I've handle: M-6 sadan, SUV 5, big enough good room ,and M-cx30 and 3. All long distance traveling. And not high maintenance. Good for all season
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 28531810
- VIN
- KL77LKE24RC132117
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarMax MilwaukeeReviews
CarMax Milwaukee review
Just started looking for different car. No pressure. Let us look at our pace and we're available to answer questions as needed. Good experience.
2024 Chevrolet Trax review
Had this LT for a year now and it has been very nice. Great gas mileage and seems to get just a touch better on the HWY than reported. Overall a great value and good overall car in the entry level. I would recommend the LT trim as it has the nicer interior but keeps the price point down. It packs a ton of features that you don’t expect from market segment. Also gives you a lot more room than you expect, very comfortable for 4 people with no problems.
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$20,999
Est. $388/mo Apple Ford Shakopee
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- Ext. color
- White Diamond
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- S14671Y
- VIN
- JA4ARUAU5SU005994
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
Dealer
Apple Ford ShakopeeReviews
Apple Ford Shakopee review
We had a great experience buying our 2025 Ford Escape at Apple Ford Shakopee. The Senior Sales Rep, Tim Baird, was so professional and helpful and treated us like family. He went out of his way to explain many features of the vehicle that are new to us. We are senior citizens and were blessed to have Tim take care of us.
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$20,349
Est. $376/mo Cornerstone Chevrolet
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- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- A6890
- VIN
- JA4ARUAU5SU003890
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
Dealer
Cornerstone ChevroletReviews
Cornerstone Chevrolet review
Everyone I encountered was helpful and personable. I'm not a fan of dealing with car salesman, but it wasn't like that at Cornerstone. P.J. La Croix was very helpful, I never felt like I was being pushed into anything, he just answered all my questions. Allison Burnham, the Finance Manager, was also nice and helpful. After I purchased a certified used vehicle, I had a minor issue within the week. I notified them and they took care of it, no questions asked. Cornerstone is probably the all around, best car dealership I've purchased from.
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$25,990
Est. $480/mo West Metro Buick GMC
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- Ext. color
- Cinnabar Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony w/Ebony Accents
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- ECOTEC 1.3L I-3 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- 33052A
- VIN
- KL4AMESL1RB153222
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
West Metro Buick GMCReviews
West Metro Buick GMC review
Jason was upfront, honest and straight to the point. Didn?t play any games. I was offered a fair value for my trade in (unlike other dealerships). I was able to get my trade in and drive away in a brand new vehicle all under 3 hours.
2024 Buick Encore GX review
For the money you can't do much better. Quiet, sleek and has lots of options available. Has plenty of room and storage for this class of car. Love the AWD version as I live in a part of the country that gets a fair amount of snow.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White Frost Tricoat
- Int. color
- Pebble Gray w/Ebony & Whisper Beige Stitching
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Ecotec 1.2L I-3 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- 32799B
- VIN
- KL47LCE25RB024002
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
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West Metro Buick GMCReviews
West Metro Buick GMC review
I recently purchased a new vehicle from West Metro Buick and Jake, salesman, was very knowledgeable and helpful throughout the process. He never pressured me making buying a new car more enjoyable. Ryan, in Finance, was also great to work with. I felt I was treated with respect and honesty! Everyone I talked to, were very friendly. Great place to do business!!!
2024 Buick Envista review
Working on 2 years now with my new Buick, looking at this vehicle from the outside you really feel like you’re looking at an expensive car, the inside of the car is nicely done for the price point. First model year for the Envista. You have to expect some issues., I had my car in twice to have the radio reprogrammed or updated whichever you wanna call it. I’ve had the sunroof motor replaced as that has worn out. I haven’t had any other issues with the vehicle, the ride is great. It’s fairly quiet, it gets great gas mileage and it totally suits my need as far as space , comfort, and appearance. There are just a couple of things that I would change about this vehicle if I could. First, I would upgrade the sound system to something better, the sound system is pretty good but I bought the Avenir and one would think that model should’ve had a premium sound system. Express up windows could’ve been added, not just expressed down. The car could’ve used some additional sound deadening material. Buick are known for being quiet vehicles, I think the additional sound deadening and also maybe an 18 inch wheel in the satin nickel finish would’ve been nice. I have the 19 inch wheels and I think the 18 inch would’ve given it a better ride but it’s still pretty decent. The car is quiet however it is not that Buick quiet that I’ve had before in other Buicks. Would I buy this car again, probably not but not because there’s anything wrong with it, just because I would probably want to change. I’m at retirement age so I did buy this vehicle knowing I’m going to keep it probably as my last vehicle. Is it a nice vehicle absolutely, is it worth the money? Absolutely, should you buy one of these that’s entirely up to you after a test driving it, but I don’t think you would be disappointed as long as you understand what you’re paying for. You are not spending 40 to 50,000 on a vehicle buying this car and you’re getting something that looks definitely like it could be worth 40,000.
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$25,547
Est. $472/mo Ryan Auto Mall Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Sepia/Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- U4716
- VIN
- 3C4NJDCN5RT169352
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Ryan Auto Mall Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Ryan Auto Mall Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
These guys were courteous and did a great job. They got me in right on schedule. The repairs were done within the time estimate.
2024 Jeep Compass review
We purchased a 2024 Jeep Compass Limited Elite. This vehicle has far surpassed our expectations for comfort, handling, road noise and quality. There is very little road noise we hear inside the vehicle, and this allows us to keep the radio turned down to a comfortable level. Handling is exceptional and very responsive. The driver safety features of lane guidance, adaptive cruise control (my favorite) and 360-degree backup camera are now features we will not go without after experiencing first hand performance. Thank you Jeep and Jeff Belzer CDJR of New Prague, MN
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$14,755
Est. $273/mo Morrie's Buffalo Ford
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- Ext. color
- Dark Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L H4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- KH269475
- VIN
- JF2GTACC9KH269475
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Morrie's Buffalo FordReviews
Morrie's Buffalo Ford review
Pleasant atmosphere. No pressure. Jim and Jeff listened to our concerns and were very accommodating. I brought my daughter in to look at a used car and they worked with us to set her up. Having had terrible experiences in the past buying used cars, we were assured they would take care of us. We bought a 2008 Hyundai Santa Fe. The vehicle appeared in very good condition. We purchased it and the next day it didn’t start. We called Morrie’s and they quickly picked up the car and fixed the problem. We are very satisfied with this dealer, they really have integrity and great customer service. I would definitely recommend Morrie’s.
2019 Subaru Crosstrek review
This car has all the safety and comfort issues I was looking for - plus good gas mileage. The styling and four wheel drive fits with my rugged home woodland environment.
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$22,341
Est. $413/mo John Hirsch's Cambridge Motors
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- Ext. color
- Graphite Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.3L I4 16V GDI SOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- L13276A
- VIN
- ZACNJDE16PPP21629
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
John Hirsch's Cambridge MotorsReviews
John Hirsch's Cambridge Motors review
In for an oil change, however near another service needed. All completed for this visit.
2023 Jeep Renegade review
After 100,000 trouble free miles we bought a second Renegade this February. Good car, reasonable mileage, no complaints. Moved up to the Trailhawk trim package
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$23,341
Est. $431/mo John Hirsch's Cambridge Motors
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- Ext. color
- Deep Black Pearl Effect
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 7-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- L13347
- VIN
- 3VVNX7B24PM328894
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
John Hirsch's Cambridge MotorsReviews
John Hirsch's Cambridge Motors review
Great service. Friendly people! And can feel they care about me and my vehicle!
2023 Volkswagen Taos review
Our 2022 Taos is almost 2 years old with about 21K mileage. Very satisfied with our car. For the price point (25K) it provides good handling, a comfortable ride and great interior space for a subcompact SUV. The gas mileage is amazing at over 40 MPG on the highway and about 30 MPG tooling around town. Couldn't be happier!
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$21,241
Est. $392/mo John Hirsch's Cambridge Motors
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- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- L13336
- VIN
- 3C4NJDBN0PT520103
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
John Hirsch's Cambridge MotorsReviews
John Hirsch's Cambridge Motors review
Clean facilities, exceptional customer service and very accommodating would highly recommend this dealer to anyone looking for repair service or buying a new or used vehicle.
2023 Jeep Compass review
My wife and I bought a 23' Jeep Compass Limited with 15K miles. We were looking for something small but also a vehicle that could offer 4x4. My initial impression of it at the dealership was that it has an awesome exterior paint color (granite crystal) and black wheels to compliment it. The car drives great on the highway and city. It's a very comfortable ride and the car can turn on a dime! I am currently averaging 30 mpg while commuting to work each day. I have noticed the car will sometimes have difficulty up shifting. As long as I apply more gas it eventually gets over it. Not a big deal for me as my last vehicle would do the same thing. The rear view camera is nice on the Compass, however it is completely useless at night. Overall we are very happy with our purchase.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Pacific Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.4L I4 16V MPFI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- L13343A
- VIN
- 3GNCJPSB6KL317778
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
John Hirsch's Cambridge MotorsReviews
John Hirsch's Cambridge Motors review
The service department needs to keep in more contact with the customer and let them know what?s going on instead of leaving them in the dark for 60 days
2019 Chevrolet Trax review
I’ve had my 2019 trax 52k miles for almost 3 years, absolutely love the car no problems so far(knock on wood) only small minor inconvenience a ground wire got a little dusty and was cleaned. I have done the pcv fix as Chevy did not make it good for these engines in the long run. Not a lot of power for my liking so I modified some components. Not very friendly for tall people im 6’3 and have my seat set almost all the way back.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cherry Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine wi
- Stock #
- G26-760A
- VIN
- KNDEUCAA6P7446366
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
West Metro Buick GMCReviews
West Metro Buick GMC review
Cameron Pearson and the people of West Metro were great to work with they made the whole process smooth and enjoyable. We will definitely reach out to West Metro for our next purchase.
2023 Kia Seltos review
I had been driving a Kia Soul and loved it. I didn’t like giving it up at 150,000 miles but it was paid off and I was needing something new. My wife talked me into the Seltos. I drive over 100 miles each day and really like the gas mileage and performance. But, the best thing is that I can count on it being reliable. I would recommend a Kia to anyone,
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$20,839
Est. $385/mo Jeff Belzer's Lakeville
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- Ext. color
- Mosaic Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Jet Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.2L I3 12V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- LP300037
- VIN
- KL79MPS22PB069769
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Jeff Belzer's LakevilleReviews
Jeff Belzer's Lakeville review
I got a coupon and it helps a lot and the person who help me. His nice and very helpful, always smiling. Good customer service.
2023 Chevrolet Trailblazer review
This vehicle has one drawback that I am aware of. The back up camera is very poor. The images are not crystal clear. It is like looking at a television screen from the 50s. I had a Blazer 2019 and my screen was great. I cannot understand why my 2023 vehicle has a poor screen. I have contacted General Motors and have gotten nowhere with them. I find this poor visual screen to be a safety issue. Had I known the back up camera and screen were so poor, I would’ve never bought the car as much as I like everything else about it. The visual on the screen is even worse at night.
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