Used Honda cars for sale in Holly, MI
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$8,780
Est. $159/mo Serra Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM Lake Orion
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sterling Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-20
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine with 2
- Stock #
- 262178B
- VIN
- 5FPYK164X9B100688
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Serra Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM Lake OrionReviews
Serra Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM Lake Orion review
I had a very Great experience at Serra and would go back and lease again
2009 Honda Ridgeline review
I absolutely love love my 09 Ridgeline. It's perfect for me. But my only complaint is the LED screen went out sometime before I bought it. This is a problem for many owners, I feel this should be replaced by Honda. Honda gives a lifetime guarantee for the new LED screen that's $175 n they do offer free instillation. Shouldn't that be for the original screen?? It's a hazard not knowing my speed n not knowing my gauges especially at night. Using my phone for a speedometer at night is a major distraction n very aggravating. Anyone else experiencing this problem with their Ridgeline?? And does anyone else feel that it should be replaced by Honda?
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 32-42
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- HP7935
- VIN
- 19XFC1F39KE001327
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Serra Mazda BrightonReviews
2019 Honda Civic review
We leased a 2019 civic hatchback ex and loved it so much we bought out the lease three years later. The best feature that’s unique to these cars is the Lane Watch Blind Spot camera (available on the EX, SI and I believe touring models) I don’t know why they went away from this feature with the 2022+ models. Add all the sensors you want but the camera is better than anything else. I thought it would become standard on more cars, not get phased out. Besides that, the true city gas mileage is closer to 24 than 30, but highway is about 40 and mixed is 29. Very good for an all gas car. We had very few problems in the 6 years we drove it. Only thing we had to replace was the infotainment system— covered by the extended warranty. If it wasn’t for some dumb teens speeding through an intersection and taking us out in the turn lane, it should have lasted another good ten years if not more. This version of the civic is a great little car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- BLUE
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3L V-6 i-VTEC variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine w
- Stock #
- 5200
- VIN
- 1HGCM66587A042624
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Caruzin MotorsReviews
Caruzin Motors review
The bomb the best better than the rest bought a couple amazing cars here have always taken care of me
2007 Honda Accord review
The last of the great accords. Purchased 2007 accord ex 2.4 liter 4 cylinder engine in 2011 with 46,000 miles. I currently have 160,000 miles on the car. Up to recently it was just basic maintenance, oil brakes and tires etc. I had no mechanical repairs until the car was 16+ years and 150k miles, then it was just starter, control arms and 1 lower ball joint. The check engine light came on recently for the 1st time ever at 159,000. It was an oxygen sensor which I was able to replace myself. Before this car I had a VW jetta where the check engine was never off. Great car it runs and drives the same as when I first got it. Hope to drive for another 100k miles.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- BLUE
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 i-VTEC VCM variable valve control, regular gasoline, en
- Stock #
- 4507
- VIN
- 5FNRL38667B118381
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Caruzin MotorsReviews
Caruzin Motors review
The group of guys were so polite and nice! They found me exactly what I wanted. I will be back for my next vehicle.
2007 Honda Odyssey review
My family (not me yet, because I'm 15 1/2) has had two Honda Odysseys over the past 9 years. As far as I can remember, the first one caused us very little issue beyond some A/C issues. It was totaled after some doofus hit us while attempting to cut across three lanes of very busy traffic. We bought a second one with just over 100K miles and it was great for a good while. The first repair I can recall was the brake rotors becoming warped and vibrating quite a bit under braking. For a while it was fine, and then small things began to go wrong. Sliding door stuttering (still works for the most part), hydraulics for the trunk going out (sub $100 fix), interior lights dying because of age, and navigation system becoming quite glitchy (DVD is from 2010 anyway). The only larger things are oil and power steering leaks (which are annoying, but manageable), A/C going out,and suspension gettting less firm. The main things still work, though. If you have a little bit of money to cover minor repairs as they come about, and take care of it and treat it like a minivan (not a sports car, because that's not what it is), I would recommend this minivan to the average Joe. As a matter of fact, I'm looking for one as my first car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White Orchid Pearl
- Int. color
- Black/Ivory
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-38
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular gasoline, engine wi
- Stock #
- 571685
- VIN
- 2HGFC2F65KH571685
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
North Oakland MotorsReviews
North Oakland Motors review
Working with Allie , Mike and the owner was amazing, best experience I ever had with a used car dealer, Mike went out of his way to get me the best rate possible with a local credit union, this dealer will be my go to for all my used car needs, thank you .
2019 Honda Civic review
Just bought the Honda Civic 2020 Sport Coupe and I’m really happy with it. The car looks sharp, drives smoothly, and has enough power to make daily driving fun without sacrificing fuel economy. Interior is comfortable and modern, with all the tech I need. Overall, a great blend of sporty looks, efficiency, and reliability. I would Highly recommend this car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Basque Red Pearl II
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 6CH077W
- VIN
- 2HKRW2H55KH642933
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Genesis of CommerceReviews
2019 Honda CR-V review
I purchased a 2019 CRV EX-L a little more than a year ago. I purchased it at higher mileage with 93K. It has 110K as time of writing. It is a very good car, quiet, comfortable, and lots of space inside. However, it does lack get up and go from the 1.5L turbo. But once you are at highway speed, it goes all day. The info/entertainment system is finnicky and not easy to use especially when driving. The major concern is with that 1.5L turbo engine. It's running fine now, but I have watched too many You Tube videos, and this particular engine is on the shortlist for gasket leaks, oil dilution, and carbon build up. Therefore, I aim to change the plugs, check the brakes, check for leaks around the head gasket in the next month.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Polished Metal Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, regular unleaded,
- Stock #
- HP7892A
- VIN
- 1HGCP2F87AA167311
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Serra Mazda BrightonReviews
Serra Mazda Brighton review
Very responsive and communicative. I ended up with a different car but Serra was top notch in their help and communication!
2010 Honda Accord review
This is my 5th Accord. I have owned one since 1987. Each time I have purchased a used model. I bought my current 2010 Accord with 125,000 miles on it 4 years ago. It now has 180,000 miles and just past inspection. Burns no oil. Has NO leaks (oil, rain or otherwise). No "idiot" lights on the dashboard, and rides like new. In 35 years (and 5 Accords) I have NEVER been stuck! Not once! Don't get too hung up on any negative details you might see or hear of. The resale value is near the best. The gas mileage is more than decent. I am over 6 feet tall and the driver's seat in more comfortable and supportive than any other vehicle I have sat in. This includes BMW, Lexus, Mercedes and Cadillac. As for dependability, it just might be the best. If you're in the market for a used car, I suggest that you at very least, test drive one.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Polished Metal Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, regular unleaded,
- Stock #
- HP7892A
- VIN
- 1HGCP2F87AA167311
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Serra Mazda BrightonReviews
Serra Mazda Brighton review
Very responsive and communicative. I ended up with a different car but Serra was top notch in their help and communication!
2010 Honda Accord review
This is my 5th Accord. I have owned one since 1987. Each time I have purchased a used model. I bought my current 2010 Accord with 125,000 miles on it 4 years ago. It now has 180,000 miles and just past inspection. Burns no oil. Has NO leaks (oil, rain or otherwise). No "idiot" lights on the dashboard, and rides like new. In 35 years (and 5 Accords) I have NEVER been stuck! Not once! Don't get too hung up on any negative details you might see or hear of. The resale value is near the best. The gas mileage is more than decent. I am over 6 feet tall and the driver's seat in more comfortable and supportive than any other vehicle I have sat in. This includes BMW, Lexus, Mercedes and Cadillac. As for dependability, it just might be the best. If you're in the market for a used car, I suggest that you at very least, test drive one.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Solar Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, interco
- Stock #
- HP7976
- VIN
- 2HKRS4H25TH520605
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Serra Mazda BrightonReviews
2026 Honda CR-V review
We traded in our 2020 CR-V for a 2026. Drives like a dream. Very tight on turns. It seems roomier than our 2020. Our trade-in value for the 2020 was great.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Obsidian Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control,
- Stock #
- C4806
- VIN
- 1HGCR2F34FA090970
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Page Honda of BloomfieldReviews
Page Honda of Bloomfield review
I’m very satisfied for the car I bought it from Page Honda , every time I work with Shaban . Very nice and helpful to me . Thank you Shaban and all of the other guys at Page Honda !
2015 Honda Accord review
Bought my 2015 Honda Accord LX used in 2018 with 42K on the odometer. It now has just over 100K and has for most of the past 7 years been a very good vehicle overall, requiring only manufacturer recommended routine maintenance. Within the past year, however, it has needed to have the starter replaced and repair work done on the air conditioning unit. The cost of those repairs totaled about $1,200. Not too bad for over 7 years of regular driving. I'm still really pleased with the performance of the vehicle. Handling, acceleration and braking are truly excellent. I'm most impressed by the gas mileage. On a recent 2,400 mile round-trip from Florida to Pennsylvania the car averaged just over 41 mpg. In local mixed driving it consistently gets between 35-37 mpg. Getting that type of gas mileage with the kind of performance it provides is hard to beat!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I4 16V MPFI SOHC
- Stock #
- 9S062639P
- VIN
- JHMGE884X9S062639
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Brake Assist
Dealer
Suburban HondaReviews
Suburban Honda review
A great all around experience, from the purchase to the delivery.
2009 Honda Fit review
Bought one with 200k on it..drives smooth solid trNs , suspension and acceleration ..nice 1.5 liter engine no oil leaks ..just needed tune up ..spark plugs and o,e cylinder coil ...glad to have it for my gas buster budget. 40 mpg on highway ..seems like it'll go another 100k. Good in snow fwd helps alot
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Vehicle Information
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V MPFI SOHC
- Stock #
- CB044878A
- VIN
- 5FNRL5H69CB044878
Features
- Convenience
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Suburban HondaReviews
Suburban Honda review
We moved to Livonia a few months ago, and when it was time for service on my CRV, I wanted to find an honest Honda dealer--one that wouldn't tack on unnecessary services like a previous dealership did or take advantage of my lack of knowledge about cars. I was impressed with Suburban Honda of Farmington Hills from the start. When I discovered I had a scheduling conflict, Sandra (the employee who handles appointments) quickly accommodated me by finding a time later the same day. She was friendly and helpful. Bob Spurgeon, the director who was in charge of my service, was professional and polite. I explained to him that I wanted just an oil change and tires rotated, and that is exactly what was done, with no attempts to tack on any other services or superfluous charges that my husband and I have encountered in some places. Mr. Spurgeon seated us in his office to complete the work order and conversed with us in an amiable way before he showed us to the waiting room. We had been told that the entire appointment might take 1-1/2 hours, which includes a car wash, but it took just a little over a half hour for them to finish the work. The bill matched the estimate we had been given, with no suggestion that any "problems" exist that need attention. The only suggestion I could make is for the person who changes the oil to ask whether or not the owner wants the Oil % indicator to remain on the dash rather than be eliminated. I had to call the dealership later to find out how to shut it off. I didn't want that big Oil Can image to stay on the screen, but I couldn't find clear directions on how to delete it. They did offer to do it for me the next time I am near the dealership if I had any problem with the directions. (I am an elderly female.) At this point, I highly recommend this dealership for the friendly, professional way the employees treat the customer and the efficient way they do the work. We weren't sure where to find a good, honest dealership in this area, but from all indications, I think Suburban Honda is one that is fair and shows personal interest in the customer.
2012 Honda Odyssey review
This car is wider than other minivans, providing more space and legroom for the kids. It drives ultra smooth and is super comfortable. Only complaint is that there is only 1 built in USB port and is located in the glove compartment.
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Vehicle Information
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V MPFI SOHC
- Stock #
- 7B010802A
- VIN
- 5FNRL38707B010802
Features
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Suburban HondaReviews
Suburban Honda review
I was a walk in first time customer and assigned to Mr. Raj Pallai an experienced salesman. He was affable, intelligent, competent and quite responsive both to phone calls and email requests. His pricing was very competitive and he followed through on what he said he was going to deliver. It was refreshing to work with such a professional.
2007 Honda Odyssey review
Love the heated front seats. Do not like access to rear seats past seats at doors. Has great pick up. Drives thru anything. Quiet. Great sound system. Cools and Heats entire van. Large windshield must have sunscreen or summers heat blisters interior.. A/C works great
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.8L I4 16V MPFI SOHC
- Stock #
- B6035
- VIN
- 3CZRU6H78KM732161
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Great Lakes Automotive SalesReviews
2019 Honda HR-V review
I love the look of this body style, unfortunately they changed they body style so next time I buy a car it won’t be the HR-V with backseat handle that make the vehicle look like a sedan.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed M/T
- Engine
- 192.0HP 1.5L 4 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- 1HGCV1E34JA187134
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
Reviews
2018 Honda Accord review
You have to get the 2.0T and not the 1.5L. They hold way higher values while also being an absolute blast to drive with a large aftermarket community for this vehicle. Mine was totaled in a hailstorm, and after quite a bit of reserch this is the only vehicle I would buy again.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- A/T
- Engine
- 140.0HP 1.8L 4 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- 19XFB2F59CE089324
Reviews
2012 Honda Civic review
Bought my 2012 brand new and 12 years later it still runs great! I have put o er 304,000 miles on it and have had no problems. I have done regular maintenance on the car and it keeps on ticking. The paint is poor condition and weather stripping has deteriorated. The interior has held well! The only thing after 12 years and lots of miles is the CD player is making noises and wearing out. I am going to keep driving until it dies which at this point seems like it might be another 100-200k miles.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Alabaster Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve
- Stock #
- DA028382P
- VIN
- 1HGCR2F59DA028382
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Audi NoviReviews
Audi Novi review
Overall the experience was very good. The only problem was that the vehicle preparation team was behind and it took longer than expected for the vehicle to be available after signing all of the necessary paperwork with the finance manager.
2013 Honda Accord review
yes my car has 2014 miles on it just bought it from the auction the car was dealer kept from day one the car is in mint condition in and out i took it to the dealer and they love the car and said no problems you should get 300.000 miles out of it. it is dark gray color and black .i will be driving 6000 miles a year. so dont let the miles fool you. no oil leaks i have all the service records one owner. i said its in mint condition
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$16,776
Est. $303/mo Suburban Nissan of Farmington Hills
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed A/T
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, i-VTEC VCM variable valve co
- Stock #
- KB507927B
- VIN
- 5FNYF6H70KB507927
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Suburban Nissan of Farmington HillsReviews
2019 Honda Pilot review
OVERVIEW: Found this used 2019 Pilot Touring with AWD, and 8 Passenger seating. It was in great condition. Exterior and interior colors were exactly what we wanted. Purchased it with aobut 74,500 miles on it, newish tires, roof rack rails (great for mounting a backback). Clean carfax. Overall, I'm super glad we got it. We hope we get 200k miles or more out of this Pilot just like we got on the old one The drivetrain is smooth and provides enough power to move us when all 8 seats are used. Lots of comfort and tech features came with this one. DRIVING: Very smooth transmission shifts. No gear hunting issues with the transmission like those reported on the earlier models, especially on the 2016. Feels more luxurious than sport which for us and the family, it's great. Plenty of power for a family hauler. You can use the paddle shifters in Sport mode. 4 AWD drive modes - Normal, Snow, Mud, and Sand. COMFORT: It's super quiet inside compared to the 2011 model. Not as much road or wind noise like our old Pilot. The steering and suspension handles the road nicely, especially on our crappy California pothole-filled roadways. Lots of room. Nice leather seating with ample leg room. Feels a little bigger than our 2011 Pilot. Kids confirmed it feels a little bigger. Front and middle row heated seats are great! Adjustable armrests for front driver and passenger give good support. Plenty of leg room in 2nd row. Small adults and large kids in the 3rd row will be fine. Feels roomier than the 2011. Lots of cup holders. Seats are easy to move and adjust. Single push buttons to move the middle seats forward to get in and out of the 3rd row seats! Easy to flatten them as well to give you room to haul stuff. Rear door sunshades are included in this trim as well. Sunroof with tilt comes with this model, too. Entertainment and Technology: The entertainment system is really nice. 8in touch screen with Apple CarPlay (Android Auto as well) is excellent. Love how GPS displays on the screen while having the ability to have other apps open on the phone. 10 Speakers sound great. The multiple information dashboard can be customized. Looks sleek. The screen is big, bright, colorful and I set mine to show the tripometer information - miles driven, MPG, and range. You have other options - Nav, AWD torque distribution, entertainment info, etc. Outside temp, ECON mode, Adaptive Cruise Control, Lane-Keep Assist System, safety systems, and other indicators are on-screen. Rear entertainment system has yet to be tested but it can play Blu-Ray discs and has an HDMI port and AC plug for another input source. Comes with 2 wireless headsets and a remote control as well. So far, we found 4 USB charging ports. There are lighter ports available as well in case you need more power. Can't wait to figure out CabinTalk when we go on a road trip. You can communicate both ways with the rear passengers using the internal mics, speakers, and Rear entertainment headsets. The motorized rear tailgate with hands-free kick motion open and close is nice to have as well. Keyless entry system with auto-unlock and walkaway auto-locking features are included as well. Remote start is also included with the Touring trim. Safety: Bright LED headlights and well-designed daytime running lights. Auto high-beam LED headlights were a nice surprise.The Adaptive Cruise Control and Lane-Keep Assist are freakily awesome. Keep your hands on the wheel though because it's not perfect. The camera and sensors can get confused. But they're good to have for safety and driving assist, especially on long rides on open highways. Blindspot monitoring, rear cross-traffic sensing, and parking sensors are included and help in those situations. I always disable the collision mitigation feature due to potential problems with the system potentially braking at wrong and dangerous times.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Alabaster Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 i-VTEC VCM variable valve control, regular unleaded, en
- Stock #
- P7282
- VIN
- 5FNYF4H52BB065431
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Serra ChevroletReviews
Serra Chevrolet review
Nate was awesome to work with, he went above and beyond to get us into the car we inquired about.
2011 Honda Pilot review
I work at a car dealership in VA. A customer traded in their 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L with a little over 185k miles on it. I bought it two weeks ago from our wholesale lot and it's been amazing. I can tell the previous owner kept really good care of it but also the comfortability of the vehicle and the reliability really caught my eye. I have another vehicle I drive but this deal I couldn't pass up. Best vehicle I've ever owned even with 186k on it. It has everything I wanted and the space is great for me and my 2 year old black lab. Buy one if you can find a good deal - they are soooo worth it!!!!
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Vehicle Information
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- B5693A
- VIN
- 5J6RE48777L004261
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Great Lakes Automotive SalesReviews
2007 Honda CR-V review
In 2026, I received a 2007 Honda CRV EX from my father who no longer can drive. The vehicle is 19 years old and only has 89K miles on it. The ONLY major repair I had to make on this vehicle is a A/C Compressor for $1600. Other than that, the car has been meticulously maintained. I change the oil every 3,000 to 4,000 using Idemitsu synthetic 5w20 oil using a Japanese made oil filter by Honda. The car still runs flawlessly and my goal is to get at least 300K miles or more. The K24Z1 engine with the 5 speed automatic transmission is bullet proof and as long as I change the transmission fluid every 30K and oil changes every 3-4K miles, the vehicle will easily make it to 300K. Best engine/transmission combo Honda ever had.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT Transmission
- Engine
- 192.0HP 1.5L 4 Cylinder Engine Gasoline Fuel
- VIN
- 1HGCV1F37LA104202
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
Reviews
2020 Honda Accord review
Love my 2020 Accord EX-L...very roomy and it has a very comfortable interior. It has a few things missing that surprises me on an EX-L trim such as courtesy lights in the doors. Honda has the knockouts but no wiring harness. The lights are only available on the most expensive Touring model which is ridiculous as this is a $20 item. Honda also has chosen to not have the lights on the trunk light up when you hit the brakes...they are only reflectors but do light up on the Touring model. I HOPE AND PRAY THAT MY PAINT DOES NOT CHIP OFF LIKE IS HAPPENING ON SO MANY HONDA'S. I had the paint chip off the car on my 2008 Civic and on the roof of my 2014 PIlot. Of course Honda takes no responsibility for this even though its happening to countless Honda customers across many years and models. They have already chosen to remove the sunroof as standard on many Pilot models as well.
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$5,493
Est. $99/mo Suburban Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Troy
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, regular gasoline,
- Stock #
- 8L000177A
- VIN
- 5J6RE48308L000177
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Suburban Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of TroyReviews
Suburban Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Troy review
Drove from pittsburgh to Michigan to buy a tahoe. It was everything we talking about over the phone and nathan was very helpful and made everything easy as could be. Well worth the drive!!
2008 Honda CR-V review
Over all good car but 4 cyl engine lacks power. A 6 cyl should have been an option. Door locks (actuator) not reliable. Transmission ,breaks , and suspension are great.
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$4,893
Est. $88/mo Suburban Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Troy
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 VTEC variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine w
- Stock #
- 4H596502T
- VIN
- 2HKYF184X4H596502
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Tow Hooks
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Suburban Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of TroyReviews
Suburban Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Troy review
Scott Viau was a very patient and helpful sales rep. I was not sure I really was looking for a Jeep , but he found an excellent vehicle choice for me and did not pressure me . Once the transaction was completed he spent a great deal of time showing me all of the many features found on this car. He helped pair my wife and my phones and truly made me a future customer.
2004 Honda Pilot review
I purchased my 2004 Honda Pilot brand new. I have 215,000+ miles on her now and the only thing I’ve ever had done is basic maintenance. The paint is starting to peel which makes me so angry with myself for not keeping the old girl in the garage all the time. Best car I’ve ever had. Won’t drive anything but a Honda for sure!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- RM724273PG
- VIN
- 3CZRZ2H76RM724273
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Suburban VolvoReviews
Suburban Volvo review
Wanted to get service for my Volvo . Last service was Sept 2019 Dan Curmi told me to wait until this Sept for service. Thought it was too long between service intervals
2024 Honda HR-V review
So slow it’s almost unsafe! Front seats are not comfortable. Blind spot in side mirrors. Everything else is good. Base engine needs 40 more horses. Sport trim should have a turbo engine.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Alabaster Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Gry
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 27-0064A
- VIN
- 2HKRM4H50FH600208
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Troy HondaReviews
Troy Honda review
I went there one time to look at the Civic model and Tom showed me the car and trims. I was treated very well and decided to go for the car and Tom helped me with the process from the beginning. I'm very happy with the car and with the customer service from Honda Troy.
2015 Honda CR-V review
Not an improvement over our 2011 CRV in any respect. The CVT sounds cheap, not an enough legroom, compass continual needs resetting and the stereo is marginal. Had to have a water pump replacement at 82,000 miles. No fun to drive and AWD isn’t the best.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Urban Titanium Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control,
- Stock #
- H4617A
- VIN
- 2HKRM4H42GH618055
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Serra Mazda BrightonReviews
2016 Honda CR-V review
On my opinion this is all out great car only thing I've had to have done to the car oil changes rate changes change the oil every 3,000 miles I keep your gas in over a half a tank in my opinion that's Were I keep my gas and that's about all the trouble I had with that car besides changing my battery it's been a great overall car I've been very impressed with the with this car and I hope by the time I change this car I would want to have the same kind of car for the same type of Independence that this car had I will buy another one in a heart beat...
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- 26P151
- VIN
- 3CZRZ2H5XRM744511
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Troy HondaReviews
Troy Honda review
It’s nice to have a service visit go quickly and to be treated respectfully by staff. The positive experience here led to a nice day for me and my car.
2024 Honda HR-V review
I have owned my HR-V for about a month. Did have to tint my windows was no big deal. I think it had great power has alot on get up and go. Just the right size for me. Still learning what all the buttons do. Overall I am very pleased. First Honda owned.
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$39,950
Est. $722/mo Private seller: TJ
Contact Seller Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 40-34
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- CVT Transmission
- Engine
- 204.0HP 2.0L 4 Cylinder Engine Gas/Electric Hybrid
- VIN
- 7FARS6H95TE028393
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Reviews
2026 Honda CR-V Hybrid review
Granted, I've driven less than 400 miles and I love it. The safety features, moonroof, A/C, audio system, appearance, headlights, all scream, "this is nice"! I don't regret purchasing this.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V GDI SOHC
- Stock #
- LB040522
- VIN
- 5FNYF6H55LB040522
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Szott FordReviews
Szott Ford review
I do not give reviews very often - only when very bad or very good service. Service folks at Szott Ford were a pleasure to deal with.
2020 Honda Pilot review
Waited to give an honest review. 4 years later, I know have 109,000 miles on my 2020 Pilot Tour. The bad: It developed the known crackle sound coming from the speakers. This was fixed under warranty twice. The second time not coming back and has been fine. The looks are "meh". My wife's Nissan of similar trim level has a far nicer interior and much fancier seats. On curves the "warning" light flashes on my dash and the steering wheel shakes sometimes if a car is coming from the other direction. It's annoying, but I hear a problem for many manufacturers with these safety features, not just Honda. The Good: I consider my Pilot practical. It does everything well, just not flashy. My previous car was a 2012 Honda Pilot that I put 190,000 trouble free miles on. This Pilot with an updated transmission feels MUCH quicker. It is much easier to drive. It handles well, averages around 24 mpg on my commute (non expressway), and has been trouble free outside of the speaker issue. It hauls the family well, with lots of room, especially if the 3rd row is not used. I put on the dealer installed trans cooler and trailer hitch to tow a couple of waverunners, which it hauls easily. If you can get past the "ok" styling, it is a car that does everything well and my reliability has been very, very good so far.
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Vehicle Information
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 40-35
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve control, regular gasoline, en
- Stock #
- OP34856A
- VIN
- 5J6RT6H93NL056745
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Lasco Ford, Inc.Reviews
Lasco Ford, Inc. review
Lasco Ford has been great to me and my family. We have purchased many vehicles. Sales has been very helpful and friendly. Sever goes above and beyond. We have used the pick up and delivery option and the Mobile service option to repair a couple recalls over the last year. Keep up the great work. See you soon for our next vehicle
2022 Honda CR-V Hybrid review
I have had several CRVs. I bought this one new in 2022 and love the mileage, the reliability and the look is good too for an economical SUV. My only complaint is that this hybrid does not have a spare tire and I am prone to flats so I was compelled to buy a tire and jack and put it in the back storage area which takes up considerable space. I am not willing to be out after hours with a flat only to have my AAA come and tow it due to not having a tire to put on the vehicle. My next CRV will not be a hybrid because of this issue. I can also say that my mileage has been reduced about 10 mpg after moving from the midwest to south Florida. I can only attribute this to having to use the AC on every trip since the climate is so hot and that is a bit of a disappointment. I used to get right at 40 or more mpg and now get around 30 mpg since the move. I am also glad to see the newer models got rid of the push button shift. It is very annoying in a drive through car wash because pushing the button into drive will not work unless you brake first and with a car directly behind you, it can be a dangerous situation to brake when a car is moving so close behind. My next CRV will have a spare tire and a gear shift in it! But otherwise my Honda has been a winner.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sonic Gray Pearl
- Int. color
- Black / Red
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Manual
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- W7744
- VIN
- JHMFL5G48RX001309
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Luther INEOS GrenadierReviews
Luther INEOS Grenadier review
Great to deal with, very good communication and I am very impressed. Would definitely deal with them again!!
2024 Honda Civic Type R review
It’s what was best of the 17-21 then add more refinement. The +r mode can pogo sometimes but not a big deal since can program all the +r features with the comfort or sport suspension under individual. Sound system is fantastic, interior ergonomics are fantastic, spacious, 320 miles per tank which is good for a performance hatchback, track performance in stock form is fantastic, can hang with cars it’s not got business hanging with.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 31-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, i-VTEC variable valve
- Stock #
- STK705625
- VIN
- 3HGGK5H0XJM705625
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Unlimited MotorsReviews
Unlimited Motors review
Toby made the experience perfect! My husband and I watched the market for months before finding our ideal vehicle at Unlimited Motors. We had quite the commute and a busy home schedule that interfered with our availability to even get to the lot for a test drive. Toby was extremely accommodating in not only working out every detail in the agreement to fit our family's needs, but also in working around our schedules as much as possible to ensure we didn't lose out on the opportunity to purchase the vehicle. We have worked with many large dealerships all around Indiana but the experience at Unlimited was by far the most comfortable and trusting experience we have had so far. I highly recommend reaching out to Toby if you're in the market for a vehicle!
2018 Honda Fit review
This things fits EVERYTHING! I purchased this preowned back in 2021 with 48k miles on it. With 4 years of ownership and only 13k miles later, I’ve only ever had to keep up with maintenance including a set of new tires and one recall. Last summer I did notice some plastic paneling in the rear rattling that drove me nuts but haven’t heard it since so let’s hope it doesn’t start anew. With it being so cheap to maintain and the fact it sips gas, I have a hard time finding a justifiable reason to upgrade!