Used compact SUVs for sale near Springfield, PA
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- Y40854
- VIN
- JF2SKAUC7LH540854
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Hyundai of TurnersvilleReviews
Hyundai of Turnersville review
Great customer service!! Staff was friendly and polite. All team members were professional and the place itself was cleanly and well-organized. Definitely would recommend.
2020 Subaru Forester review
Car drives very well and has many nice safety features. It is good on gas mileage and has been dependable. Subaru service at the dealership is all you could ask for. So far at 29K miles, tires & brakes are still good.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Scarlet Ember
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.5L I3 12V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- FP5621
- VIN
- 5N1BT3BB0PC870190
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Chapman NissanReviews
Chapman Nissan review
The service at Chapman Nissan is without a doubt I( believe ) the best. They greet you, they talk to you not at you, they ask what your concerns are regarding your vehicle. They also make suggestions about some services, but never pressure you. They are the true quintessential customer service people. The mechanics are well versed in their jobs also, sending you a video of the underside of the vehicle along with an explanation 😀. I cannot say anything bad about the service as they have serviced my cars since 2020. So professional, just to name a few, Dwayne & Dan.
2023 Nissan Rogue review
The best car I have owned. Bought it brand new, now I have about 30,000 miles on it and I have had zero problems! Take care of your car and you won’t have any problems!
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$57,488
Est. $1,039/mo Chapman Dodge Chrysler Jeep Ram
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Firecracker Red Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 13-17
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.4L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- JZ2333
- VIN
- 1C4JJXSJ2PW649306
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Chapman Dodge Chrysler Jeep RamReviews
Chapman Dodge Chrysler Jeep Ram review
I purchased a 2022 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon from Chapman last night. This was the best buying experience I've ever had. Everything from placing the factory order to picking up the car was a breeze. Ordering: I worked out pricing and ordered the car through email with Ashley Ryan (Thanks for everything Ashley). Chapman was $6K cheaper than my local Jeep Dealership. No deposit was required, and they didn't require me to finance through them to place a factory order. Waiting on Arrival: Ashley was always in touch. She would update me through every step of the manufacturing process, always keeping me up to in the loop on progress and delivery date. Trade: A few weeks before my Jeep arrived, I went down to Chapman to discuss trading in my old Jeep. One of the Chapman Sales Professionals, Kevin Brown, helped me get my appraisal and worked out a trade in price. Chapman's offer was very fair and higher than my local dealing. It was also competitive with the online car purchasers such as Vroom. With the sales tax savings I actually came out ahead by trading in with Chapman. Pick up: When my car arrived, I worked with Liz Marucci who got my car detailed and ready to go. She helped me set up my Uconnect, Satellite Radio and Jeep wave stuff. It was great not having to Navigate these set ups on my own. I did not receive this kind attentive full service from my last Jeep dealer. Liz made sure everything was perfect before I drove my Jeep home. Financing: For convenience, I had already setup financing locally but the financing that Chapman offered was identical to what I got from my local credit union which I have not seen from most dealerships. And last but not least, they offered me a ton of extended warranty and protection options once. When I declined, they didn't try to push any of this down my throat. Closing the deal and finishing the paperwork was simple and fast. A++ for the whole Chapman Team. Best price and buying experience. I will be going back for my next car purchase.
2023 Jeep Wrangler review
Fun vehicle! Great as a daily driver or for off roading. Very reliable. Sky One Touch roof is amazing, one push of a button and the whole roof opens up.
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$48,971
Est. $885/mo Mercedes-Benz of West Chester (PA)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Macchiato Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- TF508784S
- VIN
- W1NKM4HB6TF508784
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Mercedes-Benz of West Chester (PA)Reviews
Mercedes-Benz of West Chester (PA) review
After a terrible experience at another Mercedes dealership, this team completely changed our perception of what the buying process at Mercedes should be. The difference was immediate and obvious. Christian Martinez, in particular, was outstanding. He was knowledgeable, attentive, patient, and professional from start to finish. Most importantly, he treated us with genuine respect and made us feel like valued customers, something that was completely missing at the Wilmington, DE dealership. What really set this experience apart was the level of care. Christian actually brought his manager out to speak with us not once, but twice, to help make sure we were selecting the right car. There was no pressure, no games, just a real effort to understand what we wanted and ensure we felt confident in our decision. That kind of approach speaks volumes. It is true customer care, and it is first class. This was our first Mercedes purchase, and it easily could have been our last if not for this experience. Instead, it is safe to say it will not be our last. The car was for my wife, but I already know exactly where I will be going when it is my turn in a few years. If you are deciding between dealerships, save yourself the frustration and come here first.
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$29,485
Est. $533/mo North Penn Volkswagen
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- 26V1580A
- VIN
- 3VV4B7AX8RM072916
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Automatic Parking
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
North Penn VolkswagenReviews
North Penn Volkswagen review
I just bought a Tiguan from here, and my experience couldn't have been any better. Bill was great, and did not pressure us in any way throughout the whole process, which was nice. He was very helpful and Jason was also great when it came to the finance part of it. I would definitely recommend this dealer.
2024 Volkswagen Tiguan review
30mpg avg with the longest and widest roof rail base for outdoor gear at a price that made sense. 2nd row middle seat folds down individually for skis and paddles. Remote start on the vw app is great for cooling the interior down on a 100 degree day from a distance. Rear seat door opening and leg room is huge great for elders to enter easily and for parents loading car seats.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- Regular Unleaded I-4 2.4 L/144
- Stock #
- B210529A
- VIN
- 2HKRW6H34JH217336
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Mike Piazza HondaReviews
Mike Piazza Honda review
Took car for basic oil change And tire rotation. Was only in there about an hr an half.
2018 Honda CR-V review
97000 miles and not a single problem. I am meticulous with car maintenance this is my sixth Honda/Acura None as reliable as this com system worthless
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Super Black
- Int. color
- Light Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-35
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- VC-Turbo 1.5L I-3 direct injection, DOHC, CVTCS variable valve c
- Stock #
- 461143A
- VIN
- 5N1BT3BB7SC856232
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Sheridan NissanReviews
Sheridan Nissan review
My sales rep was Bob Hoisington, he was the reason the sale was made. he was very professional and polite, he made the transaction very smooth and answered all my questions. Even delivered it to my house. Rating was AAA+++
2025 Nissan Rogue review
This my 4th Nissan Rogue, and it's the only car I'll buy. I have NEVER had any problems with it, or any that I have owned. I have taken trips across country with it, with great gas mileage and comfortable to drive. It handles well, has plenty of get up and go, easy on the wallet, and very reliable.
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$36,789
Est. $665/mo Holman Ford Maple Shade
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ruby Red Metallic Tinted Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Navy Pier
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I3 12V PDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- TRE38900
- VIN
- 3FMCR9GN9TRE38900
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Holman Ford Maple ShadeReviews
Holman Ford Maple Shade review
I can't ever say I had a better experience at your dealership. The best experience is your salesman Joe LaMantia, treated my wife and I like family . He suggested upgrading our vehicle, (yes cost more) but, he convinced my wife who is usually very hard to move from her set ways for the higher package. I was amazed. I would, if we get another Lincoln, call one person and that would be Joe. Hopefully he will be there in 39 months and if not we would find ,where he went and buy from him. Also very good experience with Gary Segal your finance person. Great dealership experience, we drove 2 hours to close the deal! We will do it again. August D'Angelo
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- Y40854
- VIN
- JF2SKAUC7LH540854
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Hyundai of TurnersvilleReviews
Hyundai of Turnersville review
Great customer service!! Staff was friendly and polite. All team members were professional and the place itself was cleanly and well-organized. Definitely would recommend.
2020 Subaru Forester review
Car drives very well and has many nice safety features. It is good on gas mileage and has been dependable. Subaru service at the dealership is all you could ask for. So far at 29K miles, tires & brakes are still good.
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$35,999
Est. $651/mo Ourisman Tri-State Subaru
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- R740
- VIN
- 4S4SLDL60T3080938
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Ourisman Tri-State SubaruReviews
Ourisman Tri-State Subaru review
Corey Fitzpatrick was a wonderful sales person. He was not pushy at all. He did not pressure me to make a purchase and he allowed me to test drive the car for a good amount of time so I could really get the feel of it. I really enjoyed working with him and would definitely recommend anyone to ask for him when making a purchase. Thank you for making my experience a very good one.
2026 Subaru Forester review
Chose the Forester Wilderness for my first new car purchase and I could not recommend it more. It has everything as a mom of 1 that I could need. Space, comfort, safety features, ground clearance for adventures, easy to clean interiors, cargo space, and the ease of owning a reliable and highly rated safety car. The visibility is unmatched and the adventure exterior is eye catching everywhere. Had it for 2 months and no complaints. Screen can be lagging as others can attest, but it is not a detrimental feature. It still has everything you need!
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$48,971
Est. $885/mo Mercedes-Benz of West Chester (PA)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Polar White
- Int. color
- Macchiato Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- TU116343S
- VIN
- W1NKM4HB5TU116343
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Mercedes-Benz of West Chester (PA)Reviews
Mercedes-Benz of West Chester (PA) review
Just completed a lease buy out It was so quick and efficient and I was kept informed the entire way I am proud to have worked here
2026 Mercedes-Benz GLC 300 review
My GLC has pretty much every feature. I love the luxury styling and feel. The Nappa leather, AMG package and Pinnacle trim are worth the cost. I found the Driver Assistance Package easy to master and is very helpful. Driving is quiet and smooth, but hard acceleration kicks in too abruptly.
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$48,669
Est. $880/mo Mercedes-Benz of Cherry Hill
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Polar White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V DIRECT INJECTION DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- LM11090
- VIN
- W1NKM4HB1TF624734
Features
- Convenience
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Mercedes-Benz of Cherry HillReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Cherry Hill review
I’m revising my previous review because Mercedes Benz promptly responded and corrected this issue. Thank you Mercedes Benz U.S.A., and Rich, General Manager at the Cherry Hill store.
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$60,759
New 2027 Genesis GV70 2.5T Advanced AWD 
$60,629
New 2027 Genesis GV70 2.5T Advanced AWD 
$60,084
New 2027 Genesis GV70 2.5T Advanced AWD 
$60,599
New 2027 Genesis GV70 2.5T Advanced AWD 
$60,889
New 2027 Genesis GV70 2.5T Advanced AWD 
$60,889
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$59,949
New 2027 Genesis GV70 2.5T Advanced AWD 
$60,084
New 2027 Genesis GV70 2.5T Advanced AWD 
$60,889
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$60,669
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$60,889
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$59,944
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, interco
- Stock #
- H270108A
- VIN
- 2HKRS4H73RH434813
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Conicelli AutoplexReviews
Conicelli Autoplex review
Omg I don’t know where to start! I came in knowing that or thought that I was not going to be able to get a car because of my credit. How about I let with the exact color and model and it’s fully loaded couldn’t have be happier. I had to leave the best for last Tom is the man he is funny but about his business. And I can’t leave Chris out !!!!
2024 Honda CR-V review
My CR-V EXL is outstanding overall. It was a little pricy but worth it so far. I have over 11,000 miles on it in a little over a year.
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$35,789
Est. $647/mo Holman Ford Maple Shade
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Azure Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Truffle
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I3 12V PDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- TRE72289
- VIN
- 3FMCR9BN7TRE72289
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Holman Ford Maple ShadeReviews
Holman Ford Maple Shade review
i have purchased all my Lincolns from Hollman for the last 36 years. They are the best dealership in the area, I am originally from Detroit and know my cars and dealerships. I was once employed by EDS/GM via Ross Pero. They are also professional and care about their customers, but Hollman is better at customer service.
2026 Ford Bronco Sport review
My Bronco Sport runs great. I love the interior-it’s not the usual gray. It’s called Espresso and it’s beautiful. It’s just the right size for our needs. Not too big, not too small.
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$34,789
Est. $629/mo Holman Ford Maple Shade
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ruby Red Metallic Tinted Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Ebony
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 1.5L I3 12V PDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- TRE12672
- VIN
- 3FMCR9CN5TRE12672
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Holman Ford Maple ShadeReviews
Holman Ford Maple Shade review
The sales person was warm and very friendly. He was efficient and knowledgeable of the vehicle. He worked hard to get us the car we wanted. He even showed us how to get the Lincoln App on our phone. He was flexible with his time to fit our schedule. Could not ask for better service.
2026 Ford Bronco Sport review
The Bronco Sport is one of the best vehicles I have ever owned. The different settings of G.O.A.T. Mode are awesome! (G.O.A.T. = Go On All Terrain) Normal, Slippery, Eco, and Off-Road. I have a hillside in my backyard. Previous vehicles (4x4's) sometimes had trouble maneuvering the hillside, but using the Off-Road mode, I am able to drive around my yard with no problem. I get between 26 and 32mpg on regular unleaded fuel. Probably the only thing I do not particularly care for is the lane assist. It is helpful, but also can be annoying! If you have the cruise set, the lane assist will keep you centered in the lane. However, if you attempt to switch lanes without using an indicator, the vehicle tries to keep you in the lane you were in when you set the cruise. The cargo area is awesome! I love the fact that there is a bit of a "lip" to prevent anything from sliding out of the back. It is amazing! The stereo is awesome. The bass is awesome and it's factory! One other thing I love about this vehicle is that it absolutely has the get-up-and-go when you want/need to kick it down and put distance between you and other vehicles. I also love that I have the option of opening the rear window if I do not feel like opening the entire back liftgate. My previous vehicle did not have that option.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Shimmering Silver
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Smartstream 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, CVVT variable
- Stock #
- PH223627
- VIN
- 5NMJBCAE0PH223627
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoLenders of Newtown SquareReviews
AutoLenders of Newtown Square review
Deciding to choose to shop with Auto Lenders was one of the best decisions I ever made, a very easy process and Lucas made the transition process so easy, everyone was so welcoming, I’ll choose to purchase my vehicle here everytime.
2023 Hyundai TUCSON review
I've had this vehicle limited fwd edition over a year now and it's still awesome as the first day I bought it. Smoother ride and quieter ride than the Honda CRV or the Toyota RAV4. I love that it has GDI and multiport injection which the competition does not. I also love that it has a regular transmission and not a CVT. This vehicle comes with all the luxuries my old Cadillacs had plus a lot more features. This car has plenty of pick up and go. You just have to learn to push down on the accelerator not punch it. I would highly recommend this to anyone in the small SUV class. Cause believe me I test drove them all, and this was by far the quietest smoothest ride and most comfortable car that I test drove.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Dune
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V PDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 9068016A
- VIN
- 5UX53GP00S9068016
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
BMW of West Chester (PA)Reviews
BMW of West Chester (PA) review
I just purchased a 2023 BMW i4 M50 from Justice Mogano at BMW of WestChester and I couldn't be happier with my decision. My salesman, Justice Mogano was very helpful and professional throughout the whole process. He answered all my questions, plus explained all the features and benefits of the i4. He also followed up with me after the purchase to make sure I was satisfied and had no issues with the car. He is a great salesman and I highly recommend him and BMW of West Chester to anyone looking for a new BMW. Overall, I am very happy with my 2023 BMW i4 M50 Thank you, Justice Mogano and BMW of West Chester , for making my car buying experience a smooth and enjoyable one.
2025 BMW X3 review
I absolutely love this car. Sleek design, very sharp looking. Drives like a dream. It takes a bit to learn where controls are for dash but, once you got it down, its easy.
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$41,580
Est. $751/mo Bergey's Lincoln
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Glacier White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 7-Speed Automatic S tronic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- LLU4549
- VIN
- WA1EAAGU7S2058612
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Bergey's LincolnReviews
Bergey's Lincoln review
I recently purchased a 2023 Wrangler 4xe WILLYS and worked with Dustin, who was very helpful and PATIENT with me in my decision making. The Jeep had LOW Mileage and was Priced GREAT, and I was hesitant with making the 60+mile trip from DE, but I am so glad I did. Thanks again to Dustin and Brian for their assistance.
2025 Audi Q5 review
Bought all new Q5 sportback 6 months ago and its been great. Not one issue. Lots of tech and gets looks everywhere i go. I have the Prestige model.
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$31,598
Est. $571/mo Mercedes-Benz of Fort Washington
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Digital White
- Int. color
- Macchiato Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Auto-Shift
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- K317584C
- VIN
- W1N4M4HB9PW317584
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Mercedes-Benz of Fort WashingtonReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Fort Washington review
I am still interested in upgrading my 2003 SL 500 to a 2015 SL400. They immediately responded red to my inquiry. I am planning on visiting the dealership this week.
2023 Mercedes-Benz GLB 250 review
Love my GLB! Feel like its stands for "Great Lil Benz." :) Drives more like an SUV than a car and that's what I wanted. There is more cargo space due to the square-ish boot. Dynamic mode gives you everything from Econo to Sport. The dash is beautiful, the ride is excellent and the price is fantastic. A win all the way around.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Arkona White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 7-Speed Automatic S tronic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- LLU4822
- VIN
- WA1GAAFY9R2009161
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Bergey's LincolnReviews
Bergey's Lincoln review
I think they were as good as they could be within what they could control. We had to wait a some time for the title of the vehicle we were buying to arrive. In addition to that, we financed ourselves. We did get lectured for awhile about that, so beware. But they did let us buy the car. Unfortunately with the waiting of the title, my loan ended up being more than what I was purchasing the car for, and now we need to get the difference back. Other than that, it was okay.
2024 Audi Q5 review
I love driving my wife's SQ5, we test drove the non S. All Q5 have a very comfortable ride, sharp handling and great acceleration. I have 23 dodge charger r/t daytona and I'm very impressed my wife's q5.
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$44,480
Est. $804/mo Jaguar Land Rover of Willow Grove
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Fuji White
- Int. color
- Ebony - 304PD
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- SR26029
- VIN
- SALZJ2FX3TH295212
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Jaguar Land Rover of Willow GroveReviews
Jaguar Land Rover of Willow Grove review
I recently purchased a 2018 Range Rover from the dealership John was my salesman. Absolutely fantastic. Made me feel like it was the most important deal he had done all month Amy, the finance person could not have been nicer and super efficient. I will definitely be going back there for my next car..
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gentian Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- TLB07668
- VIN
- WP1AA2A59TLB07668
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Porsche Main LineReviews
Porsche Main Line review
Great dealership. Was treated with nothing but kindness. Adam Corenzwit Was our sales man he was the best. If you want a quality car and great service go visit Adam Corenzwit.
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$48,971
Est. $885/mo Mercedes-Benz of West Chester (PA)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Polar White
- Int. color
- Macchiato Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- TF476181S
- VIN
- W1NKM4HB1TF476181
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Mercedes-Benz of West Chester (PA)Reviews
Mercedes-Benz of West Chester (PA) review
I love the Mercedes of west chester . They are very efficient very helpful. The price and work is explained very well.Craig always explains everything in detail to me. They do a great job.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Scarlet Ember Tintcoat
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- VC-Turbo 1.5L I-3 direct injection, DOHC, CVTCS variable valve c
- Stock #
- P734045
- VIN
- 5N1BT3BA0TC734045
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Woodbury NissanReviews
Woodbury Nissan review
All the guys in sales and service are phenomenal. Best place to buy and service a car. Huge shout out to Ernie, Joe Scuderi in sales and Sam, Kiare, and Jim in service. Tina Wright runs an amazing business!
2026 Nissan Rogue review
Love the room it has a lot of room and great features such as locking the car with a press of a button when closing trunk
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cyber Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- Nu 2L I-4 DOHC, D-CVVT variable valve control, regular gasoline,
- Stock #
- PU040375
- VIN
- KM8K2CAB6PU040375
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoLenders of Newtown SquareReviews
AutoLenders of Newtown Square review
Great Experience. Salesman not pushy at all! Loved it. My daughter had a list of cars and this gentleman had each car ready when we finished each test drive. Love AutoLenders!
2023 Hyundai KONA review
Purchased the car a month ago and it does not disappoint. Has got a kick to it. Brakes are a little choppy but reliable. Inside is comfortable. Enough room and yet compact.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Meteorite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black Leather
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, interco
- Stock #
- RH409585
- VIN
- 2HKRS4H71RH409585
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
AutoLenders of Newtown SquareReviews
AutoLenders of Newtown Square review
Was skeptical going in but coming out of the dealership was a good story to be had. Worked with William Holcomb and was very fair with my trade-in so in much that I didn’t have to put any money down and it was a 2013. Got the vehicle I wanted with more options then I can imagine and left with a full tank of gas. Also they can me a good deal on their paperwork but I still chose my credit union because there deal was better and it didn’t matter that I went that way. Also I didn’t have to waste my whole day getting the deal done. Less 2 hours and I was leaving with my vehicle. Great experience working with William and auto lender. Thank you Jim Regan
2024 Honda CR-V review
Can't enjoy music or conversation while driving due to road and outside noise. I'm used to a Ford f150 that is very comfortable and quiet.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Canyon River Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- 1.5L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, interco
- Stock #
- RH420931
- VIN
- 2HKRS4H48RH420931
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoLenders ExtonReviews
AutoLenders Exton review
AutoLenders was great to work with. When we couldn’t find the vehicle we were looking for with all the features at their particular location, they were willing to bring in two additional vehicles from other locations for us to also test drive, at no cost to us. Because of their flexibility and ability to bring these other cars in, we ended up purchasing our vehicle from them. They were great to work with!
2024 Honda CR-V review
Purchased at Lease return, a 2019 with 20k miles, I am at 70k and its been consistent. Gas, Oil change, minor filters, wipers etc. getting average around town 32 MPG on long trips if i stay under or at 70 MPH it gets close to 40 MPG (Its not a hybrid)
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Offshore Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- 2L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular g
- Stock #
- R8294675
- VIN
- JF2GUADC2R8294675
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoLenders VoorheesReviews
AutoLenders Voorhees review
Thought your sales rep was very knowledgeable a real pro. Appreciated his persistence. Thank you
2024 Subaru Crosstrek review
Durable. I got the wilderness sport line. Very reliable and just a good compact SUV. As long as you maintain it, it will last forever.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 70300246
- VIN
- W1NKJ8HB0SF363076
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax DaytonReviews
CarMax Dayton review
I purchased a vehicle on 2/16/2023. The process was fast and efficient. The staff was extremely helpful and there was zero sales pressure. The CarMax financing offer was as good as I had found independantly.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Sandstone
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- PV23632Z
- VIN
- 5LMCJ2D94NUL14869
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Bob Ruth FordReviews
Bob Ruth Ford review
From August 5th when I ordered my new 2027 Ford Explorer, until I picked up my new car on October 19th, I was kept well informed of the progress being made in the building of my car. On the day I picked it up, while sitting in the lobby area, every Bob Ruth employee who walked by greeted me and was very friendly. I am very happy with my new car. It is my 3rd Explorer, and I would highly recommend Bob Ruth Ford in Dillsburg to anyone!
2022 Lincoln Corsair review
Going on 23months with the Corsair. First the bad. Have had the backup camera replaced twice(common issue from what I hear). Slightly overpriced when you add options. Sunglass holder broke(button snapped off) so won’t stay closed. I’m expecting it to be fixed free next oil change. Also. This SUV needs TLC to look its best and to maintain interior. I’m a detail car nut. So I keep everything like new as best I can. However? The interior of this vehicle, because of all the piano black gloss, MUST be cleaned and I would suggest, ceramic protected, to look it’s best. That includes the outside. I ceramic myself and is easy to do with many choice products online. If you have little kids or teenagers though? The interior is gonna get trashed, scuffed or something broken. When kept clean and shiny, inside and out, this little SUV is stunning to look at and sit in. The stock stereo is not the best however. Not bad, but not great. If you really love your music. Pay for the upgrade. The difference is huge. Luckily I test drove both before realizing I wanted the better stereo. But? If you just like your music at normal levels and don’t want a thumping subwoofer. The base system is fine. The good. Pure American style, old school, luxury/comfort. Unique and Art-Deco inspired interior. Very quiet vehicle at all speeds and more then enough power for fast driving when needed. This vehicle may be the smallest Lincoln, but it has gusto. Gas mileage is perfectly exceptable for the class and I average about 29-30mpg on highway, which is where I do most of my driving. I like understated luxury. All the German interior bling is way to much for my taste and Lincoln fits my lifestyle/personality better. No mechanical issues as of yet and the engine and transmission seem to get good reviews for longevity. I generally keep my vehicles for 100,000 to 150,000 miles or 8-9 years. I did purchase through Lincoln the extended Warranty, which covers most issues up to 100.000 miles. My Volvo, Lexus, never had any major issues. My Volvo XC 60 gave me 175k miles without major problems. Sold it for 3k and my 2016 Lexus NX has 125k and still runs like new with just brakes, tires, oil and spark plug changes. Am I excpecting that kind of reliability with a Ford product? We shall see. All in all? My first American car in decades and as of now very happy with choice., 4-5 years of ownership is going to be the telling point however, so hoping for NO headaches.