Used RAM cars for sale near Forward, PA
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- Ivory White
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- Red/Black/Ebony
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- 15-21
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- Gasoline
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- Automatic
- Engine
- Hurricane 3L I-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve
- Stock #
- C260521100T1
- VIN
- 1C6SRFPP0SN597197
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Kenny Ross Ford SouthReviews
Kenny Ross Ford South review
I brought my Ford Fiesta in for service. Kayla in the service center was very professional, knowledgeable and kept me informed. I thought the service was expensive....but that is not on the Ford Dealership...that is the way parts are these days. I was a little angry because I had to bring the car back for service within 3 days, but was very happy at the treatment received from Kayla and the dealership. All is now fixed and I received what I always get from them, customer service that is professional and friendly. Thank you!
2025 RAM 1500 review
The I-6 does pretty good on fuel. Averages around 20 to 21. Rides very well. Seems to do ok pulling a boat, the fuel milage does drop to around 16 though.
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- Ext. color
- Billet Silver Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.7L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- BP00657
- VIN
- 1C6SRFBT7NN339574
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- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
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- Remote Start
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- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
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- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Mercedes-Benz of WashingtonReviews
Mercedes-Benz of Washington review
This dealership was the first of many that we visited searching for our next vehicle. Upon entering the building, we were happily greeted by Omeed Safagar. He was courteous, attentive to our needs, and was not pushy. What impressed us is that he sat in the car and showed us every detail from the passenger's side all the way around to the driver's side, to the cabin and cargo section of the car. He not only answered every single question, but he displayed knowledge about every feature. In contrast, every other dealership either made us wait to be seen, did not know about every feature of their car and "glossed over" their answers, and even one ended our visit abruptly to cater to another guest. The manager, Stephen Staats, was also a part of the experience and even predicted that we would be back. We laughed at the time, but he was right! The sales process was fantastic, and we highly recommend asking for Omeed if you are planning on visiting this dealership. We are very happy with our purchase and hope that the rest of our experience there is just as positive.
2022 RAM 1500 review
Purchased in 2023, new. Had to go back one year to find one without e-torque. Test drove & didn't like it. Right now I have 30,000 trouble free miles on it. I just hope my luck with that last. I have been a GM owner all my life, with two Fords threw in which didn't impress mr at all. I was dissatisfied with my 2010 GMC so I decided to try Ram. I bought a 2017 Bighorn with the 3.6 V6 & was totally happy. 70,000 trouble free miles. I planned on keeping that truck much longer, but, at my age, decided to give it one more shot, so i bought the 2022 with the 5.7 V8. Didn't need the xtra power but decided I'd go for broke. I'm 82, so I'm planning this to be my last truck. I have owned pickups only since 1967, never had any use for a car.
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- Ext. color
- Mineral Gray Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Medium Greystone/Dark Slate
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- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 5.7L V-8 variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine w
- Stock #
- 261033A
- VIN
- 3C6TD5DT2CG266405
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- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
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- Tow Hitch
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- Stability Control
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Kernersville Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Kernersville Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
This team was fantastic! I had the pleasure of working with Lauren before driving from out of state to purchase a car from Charlie Johnston. He is the absolute best car salesman EVER! The experience was easy, thoughtful, and efficient. I also can't forget to mention the kindness of Denise Tores, who was terrific when help was needed. Thank you all so very much!!!
2012 RAM 2500 review
N never had a problem about it used and it was a farm truck. It's a little rusty but it runs its butt off but having problems with the electrical in the steering column . Need to get it fixed
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- Ext. color
- Bright White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.4L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- PV21975Z
- VIN
- ZFBHRFABXN6W94764
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- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
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- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
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- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Bob Ruth FordReviews
Bob Ruth Ford review
Fantastic car buying experience! Friendly people; attentive service; comfortable environment; fast action. Building customer relationships first; selling cars second. Dave G
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$35,988
Est. $614/mo Memorial Highway Chevrolet- Somerset
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- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Metallic Clearcoat
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 6 Cylinder 4WD Hybrid Automatic
- Stock #
- SP4138
- VIN
- 1C6RRFFG1PN696408
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- Keyless Entry
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Memorial Highway Chevrolet- SomersetReviews
2023 RAM 1500 review
Perfect for car for work and family. Specious and love the tech and smooth drive. Also enjoying the new look of the car and drives great!
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- Ext. color
- Red
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.0L I6 24V GDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- N7662A
- VIN
- 1C6SRFFP7SN684080
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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Colonial ToyotaReviews
Colonial Toyota review
I have purchased two vehicles from Colonial Toyota in the past 6 years. Working with Jason Vaughn, a salesman there was a pleasure, just the opposite of the horror stories normally associated with buying a car. I strongly recommend seeing Jason before your next automotive purchase.
2025 RAM 1500 review
I got hit in a snow storm and pushed into oncoming traffic then hit by a 60,000 lbs snow plow. Truck was totaled had to be cut out of it because all the doors were stuck but I walked away with minor bruising from the seat belt. Just got my new 2026 last week. Definitely recommend for safety and 24 mpg on the highway with the twin turbo hurricane and plenty of power.
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$47,000
Est. $802/mo Fairway Chevrolet GMC
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- Ext. color
- Diamond Black Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Cummins 6.7L I-6 diesel direct injection, VVT intercooled turbo,
- Stock #
- 261111A
- VIN
- 3C6UR5FLXNG193855
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Fairway Chevrolet GMCReviews
2022 RAM 2500 review
We wound up taking our 22 ram 2500 cummins over Sonora Pass due to a computer routing error(no signs either). This was while hauling a 13,000lb. 5th wheel. Tranny got hot pulling up the east side but cooled right back down after 15 minute stop.. Brakes overheated coming down west side but able to get stopped and let them cool for 45 minutes. we made it using 4 low. do not recommend trying this but the truck performed amazingly.... wont buy another brand after this adventure. Sonora Pass is a 26% grade up and down btw
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite Crystal Clearcoat Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.7L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- F26061325T1
- VIN
- 1C6SRFJT5NN224456
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Ford of MorgantownReviews
2022 RAM 1500 review
Purchased a 2022 Laramie, RWD, Hemi 5.7L, Crew Cab with 21,000 miles. Other than no nav system, the truck is pristine. I am the 3rd owner; the other two maintained it beautifully. This V8 gets better city/hwy mileage than my for V6, 4x4, Crew Cab Nissan Frontier. I am most please with this vehicle!
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- Ext. color
- Maximum Steel Metallic
- Int. color
- Diesel Gray
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-23
- Fuel type
- E85 Flex Fuel
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC Flexible Fuel
- Stock #
- H260613490T2
- VIN
- 1C6RR7LG1HS656665
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- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Subaru of MorgantownReviews
Subaru of Morgantown review
Wonderful experience with this dealership, Tyler and Jake helped put together a deal that was much better than the offers we received in Pittsburgh. While we had to drive 1.5 hours to Morgantown from Pittsburgh, it was well worth the service and price. Tyler helped organize the deal how we needed it, put together documentation, and answered our questions all before we ever went in person. We spent a lot of time on the phone and texting to get everything sorted out and they even found the exact Crosstrek, trim, option package, and color we wanted and brought it to the lot just for us. Subaru offered a great financing deal on a new vehicle which helped us move from a used car to new car, but zero pressure from the dealer to do this. We never felt pressure and never pushed to take their existing inventory, compromise, or up-sold. Distinctly different environment than other dealerships that I've visited, the Subaru team here are truly working to get people the best vehicle for them at the best price possible and they seem like a big family. My wife is super happy with the Crosstrek we got, thank you Tyler and Jake!
2017 RAM 1500 review
I purchased many different trucks over the years and landed recently on my new to me 2017 Ram Laramie 4x4. It does everything well and tows like a semi 5.7 Hemi with 3.92 rear gear and the 8-speed transmission.
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- Ext. color
- Ivory White Tri-Coat Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 15-21
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 5.7L V-8 variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine w
- Stock #
- B0323
- VIN
- 1C6SRFTT2LN108805
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Stability Control
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Fairway Chevrolet GMCReviews
2020 RAM 1500 review
i have a 2020 ram 1500 classic.. 82,000 miles..have the extended warranty and had the transmission replaced. only problem so far. i am 6ft6in tall and love the room in the truck. on the highway i can get 24 mpg. will keep it until it drops. must have lucky.
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$47,000
Est. $802/mo Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Fiat of Morgantown
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Diesel
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 6.7L I6 24V DDI OHV Turbo Diesel
- Stock #
- E260617114T1
- VIN
- 3C6UR5DLXRG106366
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
- Tow Hooks
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Fiat of MorgantownReviews
2024 RAM 2500 review
I bought this truck used from the dealer. It was used as a rental and had 49,000 miles. The interior was like new. The exterior had normal wear as a truck would. The dealer did paint touch-ups for me, which was extremely nice of them. We had been working together for months to get me into the right truck. The first week I had it, I drove it a few hundred miles over the weekend to pick up my 30-ft travel trailer, and it pulled it home with no issues. Great power, everything worked as it should with no problems whatsoever. It is still working and running great. No matter what vehicle you buy, used or brand-new, it's not perfect. Sometimes you get lucky. I have had vehicles that are lemons, and one like my Ford Explorer Sport that ran great for over 20 years. Hopefully, this RAM will do the same.
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- Ext. color
- Billet Silver Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- D33040
- VIN
- 1C6RRFFG9PN569082
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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CarShop CranberryReviews
CarShop Cranberry review
This is the 2nd car I've bought from CarShop Cranberry within 8 months. I love CarShop!!! Outstanding experience at every turn. Shane was my initial contact to get the process started with trade-in valuation. Totally easy going process - no stress at all! Nice hand-off to Ryan on another day as they worked around my work schedule. Ryan was fast and efficient to get me through the purchasing process and get me in my new car. It was all fast and easy no stress no pressure process. Cars are beautifully presented on their web-site, easy to line up for a test drive, clean and detailed when you get there. There are NO negatives with this process. I encourage everyone to take a look and give it a try. I think I'm a fan for life :)
2023 RAM 1500 review
Bought a 2020 Ram 1500 Limited new and owned for 4 years. The starter went out twice under !00,000 miles so replaced 2 starters, had spark plug miss fire that had to get fixed, had exhaust manifold crack making the clicking sound upon startup, gas mileage got bad around 80,000 miles. I loved my truck but was stuck 2 where truck wouldn't start because the starter Ram uses is too small and not enough power for the start/stop and this size of engine. Also, heated seats are not hot at all. Coming from a F150 where the heated seats were incredibly hot which felt great, Ram not so much.
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$73,108
New 2026 RAM 2500 Big Horn Crew Cab 4x4 6'4' Box 
$93,081
New 2026 RAM 3500 Laramie Mega Cab 4x4 6'4' Box 
$75,043
New 2026 RAM 2500 Big Horn Crew Cab 4x4 8' Box 
$85,711
New 2026 RAM 3500 Laramie Crew Cab 4x4 6'4' Box 
$93,666
New 2026 RAM 3500 Laramie Mega Cab 4x4 6'4' Box 
$61,230
New 2026 RAM 1500 Laramie 
$67,362
New 2026 RAM 1500 Laramie 
$81,160
New 2026 RAM 2500 Big Horn Crew Cab 4x4 6'4' Box 
$65,580
New 2026 RAM 1500 Big Horn/Lone Star 
$68,504
New 2026 RAM 1500 Laramie 
$70,546
New 2026 RAM 1500 Laramie 
$50,699
New 2026 RAM 1500 Tradesman -
$32,000
Est. $546/mo Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Fiat of Morgantown
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- Ext. color
- Hydro Blue Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 5.7L V8 16V MPFI OHV
- Stock #
- E260606180T1
- VIN
- 1C6SRFJT3LN407934
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Fiat of MorgantownReviews
2020 RAM 1500 review
Beautiful, reliable, one of the best looking trucks on the road today. 5 years of ownership. Had no mechanical or any other issues, just your regular oil changes. RAM had a couple of recalls, but those always have bee taken care of by RAM. I do recommend this truck.
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$41,509
Est. $709/mo Napleton Ellwood City Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
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- Ext. color
- Diamond Black Crystal Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Pentastar 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleade
- Stock #
- SN509362P
- VIN
- 1C6RRFFG0SN509362
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
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Napleton Ellwood City Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Napleton Ellwood City Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
Bought a new truck not long again and the sales and service department are both great!
2025 RAM 1500 review
2026 Limited with Hemi. When you accelerate it sounds and feels like a warm buzz in your belly. It isn't a street racer, but it still goes like xxxx. They are getting rid of the eTorque in 2027, but who cares: it is fully covered until 2036. The 5.7 is the most reliable engine they ever made, and 19 mpg overall is pretty good milage. The Limited ride is so smooth it feels like it floats. The 1/4-3/4 rear bed-door and ram boxes add convenience for all sorts of things. It wasn't cheap, but you get what you pay for. It is a luxury ride.
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- Ext. color
- Black Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Diesel Gray/Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 13-19
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- HEMI 5.7L V-8 variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine w
- Stock #
- H093063B
- VIN
- 3C6JR7AT9EG232568
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
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Straub AutomotiveReviews
Straub Automotive review
Zac the sales guy was very professional and friendly. Joe the finance manager was very helpful and got me the payment I needed. Always good experience with Joe and have bought several vehicles threw straub.
2014 RAM 1500 review
This has been a solid truck. However, I have only owned it for less than a year. Recently, I have had a BCM problem. Not a cheap fix. There are approximately 8 recalls.
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$27,921
Est. $477/mo Richard Bazzy's Shults Ford
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- Ext. color
- Patriot Blue Pearlcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- S5F6248A
- VIN
- 1C6RRFBG0MN737497
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Richard Bazzy's Shults FordReviews
Richard Bazzy's Shults Ford review
I made an 800 mile drive to pick up my vehicle. Everything was ready to go when I arrived fast and easy I was in and out of the dealership in an hour
2021 RAM 1500 review
One of the best trucks I’ve ever owned. I wanted the 5.7 hemi, but wasn’t sold on the e torque. After driving it for awhile, I’m totally in love with it! 395 hp and 410 ft lbs of torque. This thing is great!!
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