Used Subaru Crosstrek for sale near Paramount, CA
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- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray w/Yellow Stitching
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- 36280T
- VIN
- 4S4GUHF64R3736590
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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Manhattan Beach ToyotaReviews
Manhattan Beach Toyota review
The first Toyota Camry LE 2013 I got from Manhattan Beach Toyota, I loved & was happy with the help & service I got from the sales people, accounting & managers. On 2015 I sent my daughter to get Toyota Camry ES 2015, again I returned ha I to get Toyota Camry LE 2016 I am loyal to Manhattan Beach Toyoa for their service. I will always recommend friends & relatives to this dealer.
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$25,876
Est. $487/mo Martin Chevrolet - Torrance
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- Ext. color
- Ice Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray w/Yellow Stitching
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- 32063A
- VIN
- 4S4GUHF60R3769540
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Martin Chevrolet - TorranceReviews
Martin Chevrolet - Torrance review
Great job on my service & everyone was very nice . But missing Julio Rosales? The new Sunbit financing is a nice offer . Car was in & out in 4 hours . Thank you
2024 Subaru Crosstrek review
This car is perfect for me. It reminds me a lot of my 2002 Forester which I liked very much, but with all the new technology and a lot more pep. It also rides a lot smoother. It just so happens to be one inch longer than my Forester. So, the visibility and spacing is exactly what I want. The variable cruise control and lane control virtually drive the car by itself. I no longer get stressed driving in rush hour traffic and I no longer get tired during long drives. The ground clearance and all wheel drive make it easier to drive in snow. It's the perfect car for anyone, not just an old guy like me.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Silica
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L H-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- X18175A
- VIN
- JF2GTABC4M8304637
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
STG Auto Group of MontclairReviews
STG Auto Group of Montclair review
Excellent staff, and very helpful, made the car buying experience amazing, would definitely recommend STG Montclair, to friends and family
2021 Subaru Crosstrek review
After two years, all I can say is, well done. The car has been solid. I only have 18K miles, but no complaints. It is a bit narrow, and can be a little "economical" in appearance, but not a single complaint. It is a low end car, but the ride and comfort, overall is very good. Gas mileage is always subjective, but I average 32+ MPG overall, and it is at least as good as the Camry I got out of. It has taken me through places I probably should have not ventured. It didn't complain or give me any drama, hardly missing a beat the whole way,,,, with factory AS touring tires. The AWD seems top notch. People complain about the windshield being fragile, but so far so good. They complain about engine performance too, but I have never felt like I was going to be run over or that the engine was underpowered. If you want a "Fast" car, look elsewhere. It does what it does well.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sapphire Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.5 L
- Stock #
- 3L251258S
- VIN
- 4S4GUHU68S3783873
Dealer
Puente Hills SubaruReviews
Puente Hills Subaru review
My overall experience is very good. The facilities clearly indicate that the dealer is very trustworthy with division of labor in all departments of business. The employees are very polite. They know what they are doing. They attempt to give me explanation so as to make me understand. The efficiency of the technicians of the service department has cut down our waiting time to a minimum.
2025 Subaru Crosstrek review
My first car from an auto manufacturer in Japan. I really like everything about it! It's brand new - so no problems. The only thing I wish was better is that the computer takes a very long time to boot up. It's not instant when you start the car. Sometimes I have to wait to turn on the AC and other features.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sapphire Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.5 L
- Stock #
- 3L251253S
- VIN
- 4S4GUHU65S3783796
Dealer
Puente Hills SubaruReviews
Puente Hills Subaru review
Puente Hills Subaru gave me the best deal on a trade in for a Type R Honda.The staff was very nice and not pushy.I am going back to buy a Subaru as well.I highly recommend them to anyone looking to trade in, or purchase a new vehicle.
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$19,960
Est. $376/mo STG Auto Group of Bellflower
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sapphire Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L H-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- T68698
- VIN
- JF2GUABC8R8380737
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
STG Auto Group of BellflowerReviews
STG Auto Group of Bellflower review
Alex G is probably the most helpful car salesman there is. Not only did he make sure to really do everything he could to get me a great deal on a car I actually wanted, but as a first time car buyer no other dealership or car salesman wanted to seriously help me, but he did. I can’t recommend Alex enough at this dealership.
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$19,973
Est. $376/mo STG Auto Group of Montclair
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- Ext. color
- Ice Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black w/Orange Stitching
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 28-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L H-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- P79772
- VIN
- JF2GTAEC5P8210184
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
STG Auto Group of MontclairReviews
STG Auto Group of Montclair review
Ronit was really patient with us , couldnt come to an agreement at first but was able to work with us all the way through till we figured something out . Again ronit was very patient and very kind. Will happily buy from them again in the future
2023 Subaru Crosstrek review
Great dependable car. comfortable driving, the 6 speed trans is awesome(same as in the wrx) so stop talking stupid. People who don't like this doesn't know how to drive a manual. handled great in snow, and remember you are controlling this car not the computer
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$25,084
Est. $473/mo STG Auto Group of Montclair
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- Ext. color
- Magnetite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black w/Orange Stitching
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- P80068
- VIN
- 4S4GUHL60R3708046
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
STG Auto Group of MontclairReviews
STG Auto Group of Montclair review
George was incredibly helpful and made everything easy. I’m very happy with my RAV4 deal.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black W/Orange Stitching
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 2 2.0L 4-Cylinder DOHC 16V
- Stock #
- SP14022
- VIN
- JF2GTAEC7PH325563
Dealer
Subaru PacificReviews
2023 Subaru Crosstrek review
I bought a 6 speed manual transmission, very easy to handle and fun to drive. Roomy and comfortable inside. Nice looking hubcaps. Good storage when seats folded.
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- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Silica
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 cyl
- Stock #
- 602013A-S
- VIN
- 4S4GUHN69R3710780
Dealer
Subaru Sherman OaksReviews
Subaru Sherman Oaks review
Great customer service, friendly and professional. They explain the work being done on the car.
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- Ext. color
- Magnetite Gray
- Int. color
- Gray
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 cyl
- Stock #
- ZX503335L-S
- VIN
- JF2GUHDC5S8308079
Dealer
Subaru Sherman OaksReviews
Subaru Sherman Oaks review
Always a friendly welcome, Service done in the stated time, All service items completed and work well done by qualified mechanics.
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- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 cyl
- Stock #
- ZX503167L-S
- VIN
- 4S4GUHF65S3763027
Dealer
Subaru Sherman OaksReviews
Subaru Sherman Oaks review
Subaru of Sherman Oaks took great care of my car's needs and did it in a timely manner.
2025 Subaru Crosstrek review
Love my new crosstrek! My Impreza was great too but the Crosstrek is more my style! I’ll return to Subaru when I’m ready for a new car!
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$34,334
New 2026 Subaru Crosstrek Sport 
$39,488
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$39,115
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$33,594
New 2026 Subaru Crosstrek Sport 
$29,282
New 2026 Subaru Crosstrek Base 
$33,456
New 2026 Subaru Crosstrek Limited 
$30,774
New 2026 Subaru Crosstrek Premium 
$32,143
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$37,989
New 2026 Subaru Crosstrek Limited 
$39,807
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$30,774
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$36,570
New 2026 Subaru Crosstrek Limited -
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Gray
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L 4-Cylinder DOHC 16V
- Stock #
- 41489P
- VIN
- JF2GUADC8R8250552
Dealer
Subaru Orange CoastReviews
Subaru Orange Coast review
This dealership was a pleasure to work with from beginning to end. My sales person, Aria, is a delightful young woman. She was happy to spend as much time with me as I wanted without being pushy, which is something I value a great deal in a sales person. It's easy to see that she enjoys working with people and puts her heart into it. I don't know that I'd ever had such an enjoyable car buying experience, and I've already told Subaru-loving friends that she's the one to work with when they purchase their next Subaru. Long was the young man I worked with in Finance, and he made the process quick and simple, another nice surprise. He was reasonable, responsive to my requests, respectful of my time and gave me a fair deal on my trade-in. I've purchased a lot of new vehicles over the years and Orange Coast Subaru gets highest marks across the board, hands down!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Beige
- Int. color
- Black W/Orange Stitching
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L 4-Cylinder DOHC 16V
- Stock #
- 41490P
- VIN
- 4S4GUHN64R3715868
Dealer
Subaru Orange CoastReviews
Subaru Orange Coast review
Today I purchased a forester wilderness with Subaru orange coast with the help of Kent Chhin. I highly recommend this dealership and using Kent for assistance. He helped me custom build my forester and walked me through every optional add on, and gave his honest advice on what was necessary and what was not. My car was delivered and I took it home today- it turned out even better than I imagined! My car was detailed, the financial process was very quick and all digital, and they offer great packages and warranties. My car was also detailed and Kent offered me discounts for parts and accessories in the future. I am thrilled with my purchase and the customer service I received here! Thanks Subaru and thank you, Kent!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Beige
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L 4-Cylinder DOHC 16V
- Stock #
- 41491P
- VIN
- JF2GUADC3RH276265
Dealer
Subaru Orange CoastReviews
Subaru Orange Coast review
This place is amazing! I first contacted another Subaru, and the receptionist listened and said a service rep would call me. We kept getting a warning light, which had us pulling off the freeway each time, and waiting until the light went off. Not particularly safe! After no response, I called Orange Coast, talked directly to the service manager who told me to come in, even without an appt, as the car needed attention. Steve Anderson figured out the problem, fit us in, and even found that the problem was covered under warranty. As I waited in their comfortable and welcoming customer lounge, I listened to the other customers talking to their service reps. It was evident that the different reps were universally well liked, and all the customers were really pleased with the work that was being done on their cars. As an out of town visitor stuck with car trouble, I am totally grateful that my car is fixed and safe for my long trip home. If I lived closer, this would be my trusted, go to service dealer! Thank you so much, Orange Coast Subaru Service Department!
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- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L 4-Cylinder DOHC 16V
- Stock #
- 41496P
- VIN
- JF2GUADC5R8243641
Dealer
Subaru Orange CoastReviews
Subaru Orange Coast review
We did a lot of research about Subarus before visiting the dealer. We wondered if we were in the right place because the lot was empty. Kent Chhin answered our questions and was very patient with us while we were deciding to purchase. We were able to order everything we wanted and it took about two months to arrive. Kent kept us in the loop the entire time and we got exactly what we ordered. Highly recommend a visit to Orange Coast when you are ready to buy. Just give yourself enough time to order!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- Black
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 2.0L 4-Cylinder DOHC 16V
- Stock #
- 41492P
- VIN
- JF2GUADC9R8319846
Dealer
Subaru Orange CoastReviews
Subaru Orange Coast review
This was my second time getting a car from this dealer. Most of the communication was online, but when it was time to come pick up the car I was welcomed by a group of genuinely nice and dedicated people. The overall service was great!
2024 Subaru Crosstrek review
If you're looking for a compact SUV that feels like a safe bet without being boring, the 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Sport is worth a serious look, especially as a certified pre-owned. It’s the kind of car that quietly earns your trust, mile after mile. The Crosstrek Sport hits a sweet spot between comfort and practicality. The seats are genuinely comfortable, the cabin layout makes sense, and there’s enough space to haul groceries, camping gear, or a couple of friends without feeling cramped. It’s not flashy inside, but everything feels solid and built to last. Driving it feels reassuring. The 2.5-liter engine has enough power to handle daily errands and weekend road trips, and Subaru’s all-wheel drive system gives it a confident grip in rain, snow, or on gravel. It’s not going to win drag races, but it’s smooth, predictable, and easy to drive. Looks-wise, the Crosstrek Sport is understated but sharp. The sport trim adds just enough flair to stand out without trying too hard. It’s the kind of design that ages well. What really makes this model shine as a certified pre-owned is the peace of mind. You get a factory-backed warranty, a thorough inspection, and the comfort of knowing it’s been vetted by Subaru. Combine that with Subaru’s reputation for reliability and strong resale value, and you’ve got a vehicle that’s built for the long haul. I’d recommend the certified pre-owned Crosstrek Sport to anyone who wants a dependable, comfortable SUV that won’t surprise you, in the best way. It’s perfect for folks who value practicality, live in places with unpredictable weather, or just want a car that quietly gets the job done. It’s not trying to be a luxury car or a performance beast. It’s just a really good Subaru.
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- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.5 L
- Stock #
- 3260702A
- VIN
- 4S4GUHF63S3715011
Dealer
Puente Hills Subaru -
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.5 L
- Stock #
- 3L251045S
- VIN
- JF2GUHDC0SH311889
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Puente Hills Subaru -
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.5 L
- Stock #
- 3260656A
- VIN
- 4S4GUHU67R3750261
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Puente Hills Subaru -
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.5 L
- Stock #
- 3L251168S
- VIN
- 4S4GUHU6XS3778013
Dealer
Puente Hills SubaruReviews
Puente Hills Subaru review
I've yet to be disappointed by this place. The service is usually quick and the service managers are good with communicating with me throughout the service appointment. Last time I was there, Bella was on it and made me feel comfortable and confident with my decisions. Thank you!
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- Ext. color
- Magnetite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.5 L
- Stock #
- 3L250812S
- VIN
- 4S4GUHF64S3754173
Dealer
Puente Hills Subaru -
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black W/Orange Stitching
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.5 L
- Stock #
- 3260750A
- VIN
- 4S4GUHM60R3716310
Dealer
Puente Hills SubaruReviews
Puente Hills Subaru review
was a smooth experience & did not have to spend all day at the dealership.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Daybreak Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.5 L
- Stock #
- 3L251008S
- VIN
- JF2GUHDC4SH307537
Dealer
Puente Hills SubaruReviews
Puente Hills Subaru review
Service was quite fast when I brought my car in for something I thought would take a few hours. They had it done in about 1 hour and I was quite pleased.
2025 Subaru Crosstrek review
I bought the 2025 Crosstrek even though the gas mileage wasn't great and I am glad I did. While sticker said to expect 28-31 miles per gallon, I am getting 32-35 on the highway and definitely more than 28 in stop and go traffic. It is also a good car for older drivers like me. I didn't realize I was often outside my lane. The lane departure function has improved my driving. The Crosstrek also has a large screen for maps and apple car play, so I am not looking down to navigate. I highly recommend this car for older drivers who need the safety features and don't drive enough to make a hybrid worth the extra money.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sapphire Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.5 L
- Stock #
- 3L251002S
- VIN
- JF2GUHDC2SH304586
Dealer
Puente Hills Subaru -
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Daybreak Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Engine
- 4 Cyl - 2.5 L
- Stock #
- 3L251049S
- VIN
- JF2GUHDC3SH309568
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Puente Hills Subaru -
Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28039695
- VIN
- JF2GTAPC7L8231691
Features
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Lane Departure Warning
Dealer
CarMax RenoReviews
CarMax Reno review
I was looking to replace my Saturn but had no idea what type of vehicle I wanted. I dread car lots, pushy sales staff and haggling on price. CarMax is different and a joy to work with. After checking out over a dozen different makes, models and features on their lot, I zeroed in on a 2015 Subaru CrossTrek. My brother checked the mechanics and after test driving we both felt this vehicle was a perfect fit for me. CarMax is unique. There is no pressure in purchasing. Rick Baker was excellent in answering our questions, helping with paperwork and providing me with 1.95% financing. Outstanding! I would definitely purchase another car here.
2020 Subaru Crosstrek review
I like that the screen is not a laptop, efficient, and fairly simple to use. We use this vehicle for Kayaking, Bicycling, Hiking, skiing, etc.
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$24,998
Est. $471/mo CarMax Sacramento/Roseville
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- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-34
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29016315
- VIN
- JF2GUADC9R8346450
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Lane Departure Warning
Dealer
CarMax Sacramento/RosevilleReviews
CarMax Sacramento/Roseville review
i am a new buyer so i went there first because i heard very good things about carmax...they are excellent in the cars they sale...no dealing with the annoying cars sales men...there you go with an idea of a car and get it...well hopefully because they dont have a big inventory so before you go check the website...they littelly have all the cars they have so you dont waste time looking for one...bad thing :( when you have a car you want... dont hisatate...because before u know it its gone... i have lost about 5 cars for histateting...well i was looking at the car value in kelly blue book and when i was ready to buy it (with in one day) it was gone!!! so DONT HISATATE!!!
2024 Subaru Crosstrek review
Too early to be sure of reliability, but my previous 4 subarus were great. I came here to say how much I like this new purchase, a used '24. Great cruise features. Good power & performance (2.5L) so I'm happy with the CVT. I just love it. They're still a bit lighter and noisier than the outback/legacy versions.