Used Audi cars for sale near Hillside, IL
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- Ext. color
- Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Tiptronic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- PIB3104
- VIN
- WA1LCBF7XSD023828
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
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Motor Werks INFINITIReviews
Motor Werks INFINITI review
Jason Glasby from Infiniti Service department goes above and beyond for his customers. Highly recommended.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- D7026A
- VIN
- WA1VAAF72KD000813
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
McGrath Acura of WestmontReviews
McGrath Acura of Westmont review
I returned to McGrath Acura after six years because I was treated so well in 2020. This experience was no different. My associate Spiro couldn’t have worked better with me and his partner Denise was helpful as well when I had an issue connecting to the electronics in my newly purchased RDX. Spiro walked me through my purchase, answered my questions and included me in the process. A very comfortable experience as always at McGrath! Thank you to all involved
2019 Audi Q7 review
I can’t tell you how much I love this car. Drives like a dream compared to my Cadillac Escalade. Handles well with plenty of acceleration. Nice clean designed exterior and well appointed interior. Only flaw are the drink holders and the lack of remote start since it is German.
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$64,990
Est. $1,151/mo Unlimited Motors
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- Ext. color
- Mythos Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.9L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- STK04609A
- VIN
- WAUSFBF20PN046093
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Unlimited MotorsReviews
Unlimited Motors review
Great selection of high end quality vehicles. Would definitely recommend to anyone in need of a luxury vehicle
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$23,995
Est. $425/mo Unlimited Motors
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Misano Red Pearl Effect
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 4L V-8 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- STK41050T
- VIN
- WAUW2AFC8GN141050
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Unlimited MotorsReviews
Unlimited Motors review
Great customer service. They answered all of my questions and didn’t make me feel pressured in anyway. I found a vehicle closer and they completely understood.
2016 Audi S7 review
The S7 may be the most perfect car ever made...once you get it used. At a whopping 100K price tag new, just wait 3 years and they hit the 40K mark quite quickly. Then, you have the smoothest, slickest, near supercar out there with minimal investment or risk. Best Audi I've ever had and I've had 14!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 7-Speed Automatic S tronic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- GG31300
- VIN
- WA1BNAFY0K2103742
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarWise GurneeReviews
CarWise Gurnee review
Best dealer ever. Tatiana did a great job..She is very smart respectful and she has a lot of knowledge. My next car l m going to buy with them also and with Tatiana of course. If you are looking for a good price and a solid car go there and ask about Tatiana. Mike volvo v v90 cross country
2019 Audi Q5 review
Not exactly the vehicle for a large family, but definitely a step up from the Acadia. Fast for a small SUV. Definitely look forward to driving it.
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$17,478
Est. $310/mo Rosen Hyundai of Algonquin
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- Ext. color
- Mythos Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 7-Speed Automatic with Auto-Shift
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- Q41657A
- VIN
- WA1BNAFY5K2049371
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Rosen Hyundai of AlgonquinReviews
Rosen Hyundai of Algonquin review
I had a flat, it caused rim scrapping on both tires on drivers side, I called Brennen and brought the car in and this morning Patty called and it was a nail and they could repair tire and have rims fixed. I am so happy, that they always go above and beyond to service my car. I recommend if you’re in the market for a car, start at Rosens and for all your service needs call Patty. Thank you!!! You guys are outstanding.
2019 Audi Q5 review
not the most exciting looking vehicle, but a brilliant car, and beautiful inside, where it matters. Love driving it, and traded for an A5 .
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 7-Speed Automatic S tronic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- 34-1476JH
- VIN
- WA1EAAFY0P2120377
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Graff ToyotaReviews
2023 Audi Q5 review
This is the quietest interior at 70 MPH that I have ever known. It is also very powerful and a joy to drive It handles like a sports car staying flat in turns at high speed and going exactly where you point it like it's glued to the road with no tire sequel . It's an amazing car and after owning more that 65 cars over the years this is by far the best.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Carrara White
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Tiptronic
- Engine
- 3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- P1244
- VIN
- WA1AXBF78PD001779
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Chevrolet of MerrillvilleReviews
Chevrolet of Merrillville review
Bill Alter and Bill Larson were both wonderful. I am going to do all my vehicle transactions here
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$34,998
Est. $620/mo Team Volkswagen & Audi Northwest Indiana
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- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- Metro Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- VP3006
- VIN
- WA1LCBF72RD006483
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Team Volkswagen & Audi Northwest IndianaReviews
Team Volkswagen & Audi Northwest Indiana review
I took my Audi in for an oil change, and the service I received was phenomenal! Blake McCarty went above to assure I had a great experience. Once my vehicle was done he walked me out and opened the door for me. Now that's top notch service. Thank you Blake for the best customer service ever! Keep up the good work.
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$34,368
Est. $609/mo Zeigler Subaru of Schererville
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- Ext. color
- Arkona White
- Int. color
- Okapi Brown
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- quattroA? S tronicA?
- Engine
- I4
- Stock #
- 1450SP
- VIN
- WA1GAAFY8S2025700
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Zeigler Subaru of ScherervilleReviews
Zeigler Subaru of Schererville review
Great customer service by Charles Brakebill and the entire Zeigler team. It sounds like they all work together very well and I was happy to see that. I bought a used Chevy but I'm happy to be part of the Subaru family.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Tiptronic
- Engine
- 3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- MK260043A
- VIN
- WA1LABF72HD009355
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Castle Subaru McHenryReviews
Castle Subaru McHenry review
Quick and easy! Recommending to everybody who need profesional service from beginning to end! Sasha
2017 Audi Q7 review
This is my first experience with Audi and I am extremely happy with this beautiful SUV. The ride is quiet and comfortable and the power and acceleration are impressive. I find myself going to the store for no reason and a recent drive to visit my parents 400 miles away went quickly thanks to the massaging seats and powerful Bose stereo. Very happy so far with my Q7.
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$42,991
Est. $762/mo FOX VALLEY VOLKSWAGEN CRYSTAL LAKE
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- Ext. color
- Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Metro Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- PV10388
- VIN
- WA1LCBF77PD013359
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
FOX VALLEY VOLKSWAGEN CRYSTAL LAKEReviews
FOX VALLEY VOLKSWAGEN CRYSTAL LAKE review
Thank You for an Exceptional Buying Experience Dear Andrew and Alex, Thank you so much for all your help with my recent purchase of the 2024 BMW X3. You made the online and over-the-phone buying experience truly enjoyable. Your friendly and approachable attitudes made me feel welcome from day one. I also really appreciate your fair pricing and outstanding customer service—especially delivering my BMW all the way to Peoria, IL. Your efforts have left a lasting impression, and I will surely return for all my future auto purchases. You both went above and beyond, and I’m sincerely grateful. Thank you again for everything. Best regards, Jamie Peoria, IL
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$74,103
New 2026 Audi S5 PLUS 
$74,103
New 2026 Audi S5 PLUS 
$71,268
New 2026 Audi S5 PLUS 
$58,825
New 2026 Audi A5 Prestige TFSI quattro S tronic 
$48,548
New 2026 Audi Q3 TFSI quattro S tronic 
$54,980
New 2026 Audi Q5 Premium 
$56,738
New 2026 Audi A5 
$55,266
New 2026 Audi Q5 Premium TFSI quattro S tronic 
$55,880
New 2026 Audi Q5 Premium TFSI quattro S tronic 
$74,103
New 2026 Audi S5 PLUS 
$64,197
New 2025 Audi S5 3.0T Premium Plus 
$59,577
New 2026 Audi Q5 Premium Plus -
$32,991
Est. $584/mo FOX VALLEY VOLKSWAGEN CRYSTAL LAKE
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- Ext. color
- Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Atlas Beige
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- PV10381
- VIN
- WA1GAAFYXP2093939
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
FOX VALLEY VOLKSWAGEN CRYSTAL LAKEReviews
FOX VALLEY VOLKSWAGEN CRYSTAL LAKE review
Andrew Doyle at this dealership was amazing to work with. He was soft spoken, detailed yet concise. He was influential in making a deposit for a purchase. I had to pull out later for other reasons. But I give high regards to Andrew’s work.
2023 Audi Q5 review
A drivers car... power to weight ratio is great with a smooth power curve during acceleration. The sport seat option with ventilated seats are firm and comfortable and interior features are rich and functional; everything is where we want it to be which enhances the driving experience. The sales process at North Scottsdale Audi was the best ever experienced with professional sales rep, finance, service and even a technical rep who came to our home to answer our questions about the Q5... Wow! We've now broken in the vehicle with in town driving and a road trip and the more we drive the Q5 the more we like it.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Monsoon Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3L V-6 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- M16863
- VIN
- WA1DGAFP1FA139459
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Shaver Preferred MotorsReviews
Shaver Preferred Motors review
Andrew was great!!! Very friendly with great customer service. We are very very happy with our new car!!
2015 Audi Q5 review
Best car I have purchased next to my Lancer. Darrell Waltrip Buick Franklin Tennessee best dealership in town. They will always get my business plus more
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$24,898
Est. $441/mo Team Volkswagen & Audi Northwest Indiana
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- Ext. color
- Florett Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control,
- Stock #
- VP2629
- VIN
- WA1BNAFY8L2004698
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Team Volkswagen & Audi Northwest IndianaReviews
Team Volkswagen & Audi Northwest Indiana review
Had a great experience working with Dave W. to bring home my new Golf GTI 380 Autobachn
2020 Audi Q5 review
Needed something large enough to haul grandkids but still sporty and fun to drive. THIS is it! The Q5 meets all expectations with luxury included.
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$28,530
Est. $505/mo BMW of Schererville
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- Ext. color
- Navarra Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Rock Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.0L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- 26671A
- VIN
- WA1GAAFY3N2003852
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
BMW of ScherervilleReviews
BMW of Schererville review
Our rep Glenn Green and the excellent staff in the service department quickly handled our problem in an efficient and courteous way. It's our 3rd BMW with them and that's why we keep coming back.
2022 Audi Q5 review
The black 2022 Audi Q5 is great looking and has amazing performance! My only complaint would be I've had a couple of small problems you wouldn't expect from a brand new car! I.e.- Rear hatch doesn't close all the way sometimes & pops up. It stays closed but not tight and the dash light comes on, tire pressure doesn't consistently stay the same?(No idea why but definitely unusual)
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