Used Nissan cars for sale near Spring, TX
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$23,720
Est. $434/mo BMW of The Woodlands
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- Ext. color
- Gray Sky Pearl
- Int. color
- Sport
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, CVTCS variable valve c
- Stock #
- PN382234
- VIN
- 1N4BL4CW0PN382234
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
BMW of The WoodlandsReviews
BMW of The Woodlands review
From the moment I walked into the showroom, I was impressed by the professionalism and friendliness of the entire team. [Cristian Tovar], your knowledge and patience in answering all my questions made the buying process smooth and enjoyable. I truly appreciated your attention to detail and the time you took to ensure I found the perfect car.
2023 Nissan Altima review
Aesthetically pleasing. Awesome fuel economy!!! Handles well. I used to drive a 2018 Altima SV until a deer decided that i needed to purchase a new vehicle, otherwise, I'd still be driving that one which was totaled at 227k+ miles...190k+ miles by me (personally) in 4 and a half yrs. The front seats feel slightly smaller though....maybe it's just me.
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- Ext. color
- Magnetic Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 21-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Engine
- Regular Unleaded V-6 3.5 L/213
- Stock #
- H262879A
- VIN
- 5N1AZ2MG6HN188031
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Gillman Honda HoustonReviews
Gillman Honda Houston review
Our sales rep Oscar was absolutely patient understanding and helpful. If it wasn?t for his kind calm and respectful demeanor we would not have purchased a car!
2017 Nissan Murano review
I have an issue with paint peeling on my 2017 Murano, pearl white. Nissin won't help me out with this issue, not happy after learning there were similar problems with other models. This car has less than 40,000 miles on it. Anyone else having this problem?
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- Ext. color
- Red
- Int. color
- GRAY
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-23
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Manual 5
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28608573
- VIN
- 1N6BD0CT6GN731755
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Exterior
- Tow Hitch
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CarMax Jackson (TN)Reviews
CarMax Jackson (TN) review
I just wanted to comment on how much I like Carmax customer service as a company. I bought me car from Carmax in Nashville Tn about 2 years ago and had great experience. Then few months later I my car started making a noise on the front end. Took back to Carmax in Nashville They put me in a rental car till the next day till they got it fixed... Which was great. They repaired my car free and payed for the rental car. Then April 6th I was traveling thru Jackson Tn and my car started making a terrible noise. I was very concern. Called Carmax in Jackson Tn took my car there they worked me in pretty quick. When they pulled the wheel off the found a pebble had past the dust cover and was rubbing between breaks and rotary. They removed the pebble and all was good. Thank God there was no damaged. Tech put my tire back on and sent me on my way. They didn't charge me nothing.. Thank you
2016 Nissan Frontier review
I only have two issues with this vehicle! Poor gas mileage! Terrible turn radius! I tow a boat and my friends who have full size trucks ( F150, Chevy 1500, and Dodges ) get better gas mileage Than I do towing their boats then I do without towing! Some of them have backed me in to the launch and then park the vehicle! They come back and say the turn radius is bad !
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 16-22
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28432319
- VIN
- 1N6AA1EF4LN507394
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
Dealer
CarMax KennerReviews
CarMax Kenner review
Nice place. This is a nice place to find a car a lot of choices and the staff was so very helpful in my car buying adventure. I usually hate having to buy a car. Almost painless.
2020 Nissan Titan review
After reading every review on here, I have to echo all the great reviews. Being a die hard chevy /gmc guy when I started looking at replacing my 06 Silverado I was in complete shock at the prices of all of the big three. Even a 2017 GMC with 100k miles was 45k and a 2022 GMC was close to 65/70k. Then I started looking at the Titans and was again shocked but for the polar opposite reason. I bought a 2020 400 hp 9 speed with super comfortable seats. Drives like a NASCAR and sounds just as awesome. I am the type that will research something to death before making an informed decision. And I am absolutely happy with my choice. And I have enough left to buy a boat vs what I would have paid for big three brand.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Scarlet Ember
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, CVTCS variable valve c
- Stock #
- SN306386
- VIN
- 1N4BL4DV8SN306386
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoNation Ford Gulf FreewayReviews
AutoNation Ford Gulf Freeway review
Just bought a new 2025 F150 Laiat Hybrid. Best truck ever, has all the options. Best price by far than other dealers. Devin was amazing finding it and having it transferred. They found an issue that the other dealership didn't and fixed it before delivery. We needed another key and they sent to our house to program key. Very impressed. Better than our old Ford dealership by far!
2025 Nissan Altima review
My car is the best that I ever bought and spend my money. In the streets is very smooth, inside is very spacious. I love Nissan.
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- Ext. color
- Champagne Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- VC-Turbo 1.5L I-3 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, CVTCS variabl
- Stock #
- PW007633
- VIN
- JN8BT3CA4PW007633
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Lexus Clear LakeReviews
Lexus Clear Lake review
Phil in the Service Dept at Clear Lake Lexus did an outstanding job. We couldn?t be happier. He is now our Go To Customer Service Representative
2023 Nissan Rogue review
So far I have been pleased with the performance of my Rogue. It just turned 20,000 miles. I'm reading some of the negative reviews and wondering if they take proper care of their vehicles. Time will tell if the 3 cylinder turbo is a winner.
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- Ext. color
- Super Black
- Int. color
- Light Gray w/Cloth Seat Trim
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- VC-Turbo 1.5L I-3 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, CVTCS variabl
- Stock #
- SW009266R
- VIN
- JN8BT3BAXSW009266
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Shottenkirk Nissan KatyReviews
Shottenkirk Nissan Katy review
I recently bought a 2022 Nissan Rogue SV from Shottenkirk Nissan Katy and cannot be more impressed with the outstanding customer service that I received. Zeb Poindexter (Sales Associate) and Marco Compean (General Sales Manager) went out of their way to help my family purchase this car. In my first conversation with Zeb, I told him about my bad experiences with other car dealerships and how it was hard for me to trust a car salesman. Zeb listened to my concerns and asked me to give him a chance, because he cares about the customer and helping them find the right car. I am SO glad that I trusted Zeb, as he was kind throughout the entire process and went above and beyond to help my family get the exact car that we needed. I will recommend Shottenkirk to anyone and everyone. Thank you Zeb, Marco and Donyell Livingston (Finance Manager) for a great experience and making it happen!
2025 Nissan Rogue review
This my 4th Nissan Rogue, and it's the only car I'll buy. I have NEVER had any problems with it, or any that I have owned. I have taken trips across country with it, with great gas mileage and comfortable to drive. It handles well, has plenty of get up and go, easy on the wallet, and very reliable.
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$22,420
Est. $410/mo Group 1 Nissan Southwest Houston
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- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.5L I3 12V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- SW006653
- VIN
- JN8BT3BA2SW006653
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Group 1 Nissan Southwest HoustonReviews
Group 1 Nissan Southwest Houston review
Service consultants, especially Megan is extremely personable, efficient and dedicated. Even after the free 32-point inspection, we can see the video if anything else is required with your decision to pursue or not.
2025 Nissan Rogue review
Only had this car 1 month!! I love it!! It has pick up power, smooth drive audio is great. Huge back ( for three big dogs . Easy to step into for an old lady!! Love love love it!!!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Scarlet Ember
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 29-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 1.5L I3 12V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- TRC744656
- VIN
- 5N1BT3CA3RC744656
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Classic Chevrolet Sugar LandReviews
Classic Chevrolet Sugar Land review
I knew what I wanted when in. Tyrell Ford is the best salesman I’ve dealt with in a very long time. He went above and beyond to get us in and out in a timely manner. He was well mannered. I highly recommend classic elite Chevrolet. Best experience ever and I got the car I wanted. They even put a bow on it and took pictures since it was my birthday. Thank you so much Tyrell & Classic Elite. I’m one happy Birthday Girl.
2024 Nissan Rogue review
This is an awesome vehicle. My husband has an Acura & he is talking about turning his in and getting a Nissan for himself. So awesome on gas & the comfort and bells and whistles are great.
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- Ext. color
- Gun Metallic
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT Transmission
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- KW250868
- VIN
- JN8AT2MT9KW250868
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Group 1 Buick GMC SouthReviews
Group 1 Buick GMC South review
Very great service and prompt notification when my truck was ready for pick up. I liked the video of the inspection and checklist of needed repairs.
2019 Nissan Rogue review
I am very pleased with my Rogue. It is a 2019 that I purchased with 13K. I think the styling is very good and the interior is roomy. I'm 6' and my brother is 6-2 and we both have plenty of headroom in the front or the back. The turning radius is very good. Only downside (which I don't care about) is the acceleration is only mediocre. Overall, highly recommended.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Super Black
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, CVTCS variable valve c
- Stock #
- SN345593
- VIN
- 1N4BL4DVXSN345593
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoNation Ford Gulf FreewayReviews
AutoNation Ford Gulf Freeway review
Good experience with Jyles as my service representative to get my vehicle repaired. It took a little while because of the warranty but it eventually worked out and the work was completed.
2025 Nissan Altima review
Surprising power on the highway. Great gas mileage. Very roomy interior, and the dash and radio buttons and components are very easy to see and use. We chose this over an Accord, initially because the local Honda dealer is crazy, but we like everything about it.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- LW111031
- VIN
- JN8AT2MV1LW111031
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
BMW MINI of Clear LakeReviews
BMW MINI of Clear Lake review
I can always count on BMW Of CLEAR LAKE to deliver amazing world class service. Every visit in the last 10 years have been stress free. Kudos to Omar and Fidel and their total customer service attitude of always willing to help when needed by all the service staff especially the teams effort to resolve the window fogging issue. I could not be happier with this dealership.
2020 Nissan Rogue review
I just picked up a 2020 Rogue basic model with AWD, they sure have changed since my last one, in a good way. I’ve had a 2010 and a 2012 SL models. That alone says something having owned 3 now. Great crossover, decent in the snow, I’ve only had AWD models really good on gas! Very dependable!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gun Metallic
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, CVTCS variable valve c
- Stock #
- 10086A
- VIN
- 1N4BL4DV9NN329065
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ryan FordReviews
Ryan Ford review
'm very pleased with Ryan Ford and the customer service they showed after my puchase. I purchased a 2006 Jeep Wrangler from them. I live in Lubbock so they transported the vehicle to me and only charged $300 to do so. I know it had to cost more than then in diesel alone. Once I got the Jeep and drove it about 50 miles, I noticed an oil leak which I discovered was from a leading rear main seal. Not a big deal and the part is pretty inexpensive but the labor to repair it can be costly. I took the Jeep to a reputable and dependable auto shop in Lubbock and they repaired the leak, but Curtis, my salesperson, made everything right on their end. The dealership reimbursed me for the replacing the rear main. They made it right, which is rare in this day and age. I appreciate Curtis and the ownership for their quick and fair response. I would recommend them to anyone.
2022 Nissan Altima review
I came from a 2018 Honda Accord EX to a 2022 Nissan Altima SR VC-Turbo. The reason I switched to Nissan was the high lease price of the Accord in 2022. These cars are very similar in gas mileage, ride quality, trunk space and tech features. The Honda had a slightly smoother ride(but the Nissan does have 19" rims which means you feel the road imperfections more). My only complaint with the Altima is the back up camera. To put it frankly the resolution sucks!! The Accord had a crystal clear back up camera. Finally, my Accord had 190 hp and the Altima has 234 but honestly the acceleration is very similar.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Glacier White
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 30-37
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- VC-Turbo 1.5L I-3 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, CVTCS variabl
- Stock #
- RC733153
- VIN
- 5N1BT3AA6RC733153
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
AutoNation Chevrolet Gulf FreewayReviews
AutoNation Chevrolet Gulf Freeway review
The service advisor that helped me was very honest about what my truck needed. I received great service while waiting at the dealership, and was updated frequently.
2024 Nissan Rogue review
I'm in the car I always wanted! It's fast and sleek. The color is perfect! My husband feels I'm safer in my new 🚗. Thanks again Lisa and Prentiss!
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$20,122
Est. $368/mo Southfork Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Charcoal
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 27-39
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- SN351823A
- VIN
- 1N4BL4DV9SN351823
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Southfork Chrysler Dodge Jeep RamReviews
Southfork Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram review
I always have a pleasant experience when I bring my jeep for service. Jose goes way beyond the call of duty to make sure my jeep is fully serviced as I requested and to let me know if something else needs attention.
2025 Nissan Altima review
I've owned 7 total with 0 issues. The cvt is quick and responsive. The exhaust has a nice tone to it. Seats are comfortable I've owned German luxury cars and I prefer the Altima seats. I love my car.
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$24,195
Est. $442/mo AutoNation Chevrolet Gulf Freeway
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Brilliant Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Sport
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- 2.5L I-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, CVTCS variable valve c
- Stock #
- RN329201
- VIN
- 1N4BL4CW2RN329201
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
AutoNation Chevrolet Gulf FreewayReviews
AutoNation Chevrolet Gulf Freeway review
Very well nice and excellent customer service. Very nice people, would buy another car from them. Respectfully and kind and cared to my needs. Overall great service.
2024 Nissan Altima review
Great mileage and very nice interior. Lotsa stuff but sadly only drivers window is auto. Wheels are terrible. They look great but very hard to clean. Good trunk space and nice seats. Having problems with backup camera it looks very foggy. Had it back to dealer twice, no luck. No CD player.. big downgrade.
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