Used passenger vans for sale near Ramsey, MN
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- Ext. color
- Bright White Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- TR199185M
- VIN
- 2C4RC1BG9TR199185
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Morrie's Buffalo FordReviews
Morrie's Buffalo Ford review
Great follow up by staff! Easy going and no pressure sales. Everything done by email so no contact option is important these days. I highly recommend them!
2026 Chrysler Pacifica review
Great car. I also have a 2018 with 100K plus miles that has had zero problems. Comfortable, good. fuel economy and can haul a lot of stuff.
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- Ext. color
- Celestial Blue
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Regular Unleaded V-6 3.3 L/204
- Stock #
- P20963
- VIN
- KNDMB5C17K6523500
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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Luther Used Car CompanyReviews
Luther Used Car Company review
The best sales person Megan Erickson. She is so amazing! I would recommend her to anyone that's looking for a used car. Very honest and very helpful to the customer.
2019 Kia Sedona review
It's super comfortable and the seats are wide and accommodating. Fits my 5 kids great! We have the LX model with 21,000 miles. We bought it from Today Auto LLC
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Salsa Red Pearl
- Int. color
- Stone cloth, leather
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.3L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 561431
- VIN
- 5TDZA23C86S561431
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- CD Player
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
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The Car Buying CenterReviews
2006 Toyota Sienna review
We bought our Sienna new to take the kids to college, and back. They are all gone now. We had this car for 20 years and we loved, but after 20 years it started to require more maintenance than we were giving it. So we bought a new Toyota and are sorry to see the car go.
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$49,985
Est. $870/mo Rudy Luther Toyota
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- Ext. color
- Midnight Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Grey Flannel
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 35-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE/VVT-i
- Stock #
- P38315
- VIN
- 5TDCSKFC5RS112047
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Rudy Luther ToyotaReviews
Rudy Luther Toyota review
Purchased a new 2024 Toyota GR Corolla from Rudy Luther. This was a positive experience. I knew there was little chance to go slow MSRP on a new Circuit Edition, but the dealership did not ask for more than MSRP, and have me a fair price for my 2014 Prius. Good transaction.
2024 Toyota Sienna review
The van is very practical and has been awesome for road trips. We can easily fit two car seats and 6 adults with plenty of leg room. It is very practical especially with the lower ride height that allows my parents to get in and out with ease and also the sliding doors that makes putting the kids in their car seats easy. MPG is excellent. We averaged between 35-37 mpg with the van loaded with 6 adults, 2 kids in car seats, and all of our luggage. We were set on getting an SUV before we came across the Sienna. The Sienna just made more sense for our family. It can comfortably seat 8 people, makes getting in and out easier with the sliding doors and low ride height, excellent MPG, reliable, great resale resale value. It does not require premium fuel. With the gas prices around $3.25-$3.50, fill ups are around $40. We plan to keep the van around for a long time!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Predawn Gray Mica
- Int. color
- Chateau
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 35-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE/VVT-i
- Stock #
- P38332
- VIN
- 5TDJSKFC5PS096338
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Rudy Luther ToyotaReviews
Rudy Luther Toyota review
We bought a 4 year old vehicle, which was in great condition but had an unexpected mechanical issue within the first few weeks. It ended up being a costly, substantial repair. Without any push back, Rudy Luther’s Toyota stood behind the warranty with integrity and great customer service. Everyone we dealt with was respectful and professional. They took what started as an issue that really concerned us and made it right! Even though we live 85 miles away from the dealership, we plan on buying our next vehicles from them. They’ve earned our trust!
2023 Toyota Sienna review
Traded our 2025 Toyota Hylander Hybrid awd because the seats were so uncomfortable and was told there was nothing they could do about it for a 2023 Sienna. We were looking for a road trip vehicle when we bought the Hylander but both Toyotas Got great gas mileage 36 mpg drove good but the seats were uncomfortable and a little hard to get in and out of because the roof line has been lowered. Didn’t have the room inside as our grand Caravan and you couldn’t remove the second row seats they wouldn’t even lay down flat just lean forward. Was a bigger car outside than we wanted but not as roomy inside. After 9k miles we traded it. Would be a good car for someone
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 35-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE/VVT-i
- Stock #
- P38258
- VIN
- 5TDKSKFC8NS064310
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Rudy Luther ToyotaReviews
Rudy Luther Toyota review
The staff at the Golden Valley location left me speechless. This is my second car that I bought from Rudy Luther Golden Valley and the customer service is beyond amazing. I take my car there for oil change and any other maintenance that I need done and I always leave the shop/store feeling complete but On Friday, April 24 was different. I contacted the shop that morning in regards to my cars under trey dragging when I was driving my car that I discovered day before. I explained this to Cameron A (2115) an advisor of Rudy Luther Toyota. I explained why I was calling and also explained what I found out (this can happen when getting an oil change- which I had just had done) before I called. Cameron listened to me, and was empathetic about the situation. He asked me if he could call me back in 15 min because he needed to consult with his manager, Mia. I told him “ok” & waited for him to call me back. Ten minutes later Cameron called me back and said “bring your car in and we will re-attach the under trey”, I responded “really? Wow thank you.” And then I thought, I can’t drive it because the under trey will drag and I don’t want it to be ruined. I asked Cameron that question, he told me that someone can come over to my place right now & zip tie the trey enough for me to drive my car over to the shop which I was ok with. Fast forward- I drive my car over to the shop and am met by an employee by the name of Tra who helped check my car in. I was asked if I was going to wait while my car gets worked on or do I need to get home. I said “yes, I needed to get home” & asked “how much does it cost to rent a car while the car is worked on?” & Cameron said “don’t worry- there isn’t a charge”, so I said “I’ll take the rental car”. An hour later I receive a text with a video from the mechanic working on my car and he showed me in the video where exactly the oil comes out for when I had my oil change and the under tray doesn’t need to be removed. My original thought that the oil change I just had done by RL Toyota is why this happened couldn’t be the case. I have know idea how it happened, but I do know is Cameron took care of me yesterday. I am so grateful for him and his kindness. Cameron-Thank you from the bottom (& the top too) of my heart for your help with my car yesterday. Words can not describe how thankful I am.
2022 Toyota Sienna review
This 2022 is my 3rd Sienna, after a 2001 and a 2011. I would buy it again without hesitation. A few disappointments, which seem to be the result of cost-cutting: My '11 LE had a standard roof rack, now it is an option even on the XLE, and not a common one. Through the years, the inability to easily stow or remove the 2nd row seats has been a widespread complaint. Instead of improving that feature, they made it MUCH worse, and also told you not to try! Some people buy the Odyssey for this one reason. I would not do that. Sienna is still a better van, but what about "ongoing improvement?" They took away the left hand coin box, you can no longer open the 3rd row vent windows, the convex "back-seat observation" mirror is a TOTAL joke, they got rid of the overhead sunglass storage, they don't have a 12v connection in the hatch area, they cheaped out on the factory-installed hitch (looks like an amateur add-on), and although the vehicle is rated for 3,500 lbs towing, the optional factory hitch is the lighter-rated 1.25" size, which I think is limited to 2,500 lbs. My lower-line '11 LE had none of these shortfalls. Now, at over $40k, my upscale XLE sometimes makes me feel like I lost something. Even after this list, I love the van, and have no regrets. The benefits of AWESOME dependability, 35 mpg in or out of town, 8 passenger capability, comfort, nice styling, and quiet operation outweigh any complaints. I expect to have it until it hits 250,000 miles.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Predawn Gray Mica
- Int. color
- Cement
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- PL27006
- VIN
- 5TDDZ3DC5LS233788
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Maplewood ToyotaReviews
Maplewood Toyota review
Bee was patient and so very helpful when I purchased my car! Excellent service from him and everyone at Maplewood Toyota.
2020 Toyota Sienna review
Love the car. Comfortable, reliable and practical! Love the 4 cup holders up front. The electric folding seats in back are also great (limited edition) I’d highly recommend this van
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- Ext. color
- Ceramic Silver
- Int. color
- Saddle Brown
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- R267044A
- VIN
- KNDNC5H31N6136909
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Luther Hopkins HondaReviews
Luther Hopkins Honda review
Luther Hopkins Honda responded quickly to my cars.com request for info, had the car ready for a test drive and sold it for a fair price. Car was in excellent shape and the dealership made a used car looks and smell like new.
2022 Kia Carnival review
AMAZING MPV!! Bought 2022 SX Prestige with captain chairs in May 2021. Had 175,000 miles and drove like new. Only did Oil changes/tire rotations and filters (easy to change by yourself) and new tires 2x and a new battery at 150k was all I had to Maintenance. Was very spacious for up to 4 adults but too small for 7 adults. My last one was a total loss but would love another one. Was awesome in snow with all weather tires.
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$42,340
Est. $737/mo Rudy Luther Toyota
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- Ext. color
- Celestial Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Moonstone
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 35-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE/VVT-i
- Stock #
- P38321
- VIN
- 5TDDSKFC8NS073677
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Rudy Luther ToyotaReviews
Rudy Luther Toyota review
My daughter and her husband have bought vehicles from Jenn before and highly recommended her. She was amazing and made the process go smoothly. Thank you, Jenn.
2022 Toyota Sienna review
Sales guy Jhon was very enthusiastic and helped us buy the car we wanted. He also helped us with all the procedures and secured a good price. Thank you. The accountant was also very good and patiently helped us organize our cash. As we decided to buy a car in full, we provided a lot of small denomination banknotes. She patiently answered my questions and helped us count the banknotes. Thank you.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blueprint
- Int. color
- Graphite
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 35-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE/VVT-i
- Stock #
- V12020A
- VIN
- 5TDJSKFC1PS103091
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Maplewood ToyotaReviews
Maplewood Toyota review
We just purchased a new truck from them. It was by far the easiest and least stressful car purchase I’ve ever made. Our salesman Juan was extremely pleasant to deal with, I went there on a recommendation from a friend and I’m happy I did.
2023 Toyota Sienna review
All good except too small of an engine for the size and weight of the minivan the v6 engine in my older minivan a better match for this size of automobile.
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$15,749
Est. $274/mo Apple Ford White Bear Lake
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- Ext. color
- Onyx Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- W2726A
- VIN
- 2C4RDGCGXKR615435
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Apple Ford White Bear LakeReviews
Apple Ford White Bear Lake review
The salesman was very helpful and attentive. Very friendly atmosphere. Answered any questions I had. Financing went very smoothly and financial officer got me the best deal with financing.
2019 Dodge Grand Caravan review
Great vehicle. Runs great. Would recomend. Nice interior. Great look. Rides nice. Can't wait to travel. Everybody should buy one. Can't believe I got a great deal like I did.Big ity cars is AWESOME.
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$18,349
Est. $320/mo Apple Ford White Bear Lake
Check Availability Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Granite
- Int. color
- Black / Light Graystone
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- W2935A
- VIN
- 2C4RDGCG1KR788518
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Apple Ford White Bear LakeReviews
Apple Ford White Bear Lake review
Best dealership buying experience I've ever had. I felt like Monica was listening to me, not just trying to sell me any car. I would go back to her to buy a car in a heartbeat.
2019 Dodge Grand Caravan review
Purchased 2019 Crew Plus with 30k in July 2020. So far only complaint is the clunky UConnect system. Having owned 1988, 1995, 2000, and 2005 model years we have always found Caravans to be sensible, reliable, all round family centric vehicles. Could spend an extra $10k or more for a comparable Odyssey (Primary cars/bikes are Honda’s) or Sienna but personally do not seethe long term benefit. As with all vehicles maintenance is key.
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$37,891
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver Sky Metallic
- Int. color
- Light Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic 6-Speed
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- CS274915STK
- VIN
- 5TDYK3DC7CS274915
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Value Buy Automotive LLCReviews
2012 Toyota Sienna review
We have liked the Toyota Sienna so much, this is the 2nd one we purchased and each one we owned and never experienced any out of the ordinary problems. Great family vehicle.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White Diamond Pearl
- Int. color
- Mocha
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, i-VTEC variable valve contro
- Stock #
- JB026114
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H91JB026114
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Morrie's West End LincolnReviews
Morrie's West End Lincoln review
Made the car buying process easy and efficient. The whole team was friendly and knowledgeable
2018 Honda Odyssey review
This is our second odyssey, love the can with all the safety features. We have had great reliability, and now have just under 100,000 miles (99683) and have had only minor issues. Normal wear items plus an injector problem repaired under warranty. A few recall items ( door handles, back up camera fuel pump) all taken care of under warranty Love this vehicle, love it and will buy another when they redesign it. Rides very well, has a ton of safety features, interior is very comfortable. Highly pleased.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Modern Steel Metallic
- Int. color
- Beige
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V MPFI SOHC
- Stock #
- 263103A
- VIN
- 5FNRL5H37GB160690
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Buerkle HyundaiReviews
Buerkle Hyundai review
My service representative was prompt and professional. Comfortable atmosphere while waiting for service to be completed.
2016 Honda Odyssey review
My mom got this car and it is so cool. Very comfortable. I like how the seats lean back and you can lay down and relax!
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blizzard Pearl
- Int. color
- Bisque
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, re
- Stock #
- V12156A
- VIN
- 5TDDZ3DCXHS147092
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Maplewood ToyotaReviews
Maplewood Toyota review
Fantastic service! Quick responses! Matt was great to work with and I would recommend him highly!
2017 Toyota Sienna review
I owned a 2014 sienna limited premium and was the best vehicle I have ever owned in my 50 years of driving, owning 16 different cars, Suvs and Vans. I purchased a 2017 Toyota Sienna Limited Premium AWD and I like it but I don't like the way it shifts, its very jerky. I did get a computer engine software update that helped very much. The engine having 40 more horse power would make me think that it would have tremendous power compaired to my 2014, but it did not. So it purchased a what call (chip your car) that connects under the dash to get more refindment in the performace, to unleash the filtered performance and it did. What a difference in performance. I purchaced the chip for 150.00 and its worth every penny. I am a performance guy especially when driving a nice van. So with the Toyota Software upgrade and my computer chip upgrade now we have a nice performace running van which my 2014 had also.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L DOHC V6 SMPI
- Stock #
- Ba218788
- VIN
- 5TDJZ3DC5KS218788
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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Bob's Auto RanchReviews
Bob's Auto Ranch review
Bought a Honda Pilot with 300k miles. Still driving it 2 yrs later. Not a single breakdown. Heading to buy another car this week. I see all the negative reviews. They sell used cars. You the buyer should know what to look for.
2019 Toyota Sienna review
Toyota Sienna is a nice vehicle to own and drive. Seats 8 people and we need every seat. Weekend trips summer driving vacations are a pleasure. Plenty of power smooth quiet ride and most of all dependable
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$10,297
Est. $179/mo Lexus of Maplewood
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- Ext. color
- Molten Silver
- Int. color
- Black/Alloy
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V6 24V VVT
- Stock #
- DL320615B
- VIN
- 2C4RC1EG9HR822114
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
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Lexus of MaplewoodReviews
Lexus of Maplewood review
Bobby is very nice and understanding and respectful person. He is very understanding and very helpful. He attended me on all my need. One of the best salesman I ever worked with and a pleasure to do business with. Att Fernando de los santos.
2017 Chrysler Pacifica review
Pacifica was designed with people in mind. Amenities are super. Ride is smooth and handles well. Stow n go seats are fabulous. Wish ithad better milage but 30mpg on highway not bad.
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- Ext. color
- Smoky Topaz Metallic
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- Beige
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- Front-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 i-VTEC variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- L9704
- VIN
- 5FNRL5H90GB050066
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- Convenience
- Heated Seats
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- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
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- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- HomeLink
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- USB Port
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- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
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- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Lexdan AutomotiveReviews
Lexdan Automotive review
Don was awesome to work with, I live in Owatonna. Called them up for information on a Jeep wrangler, I was unable to go to them on Thursday so he drove the vehicle to me. That is what sold that Jeep.
2016 Honda Odyssey review
Great vehicle! Gas mileage is amazing for an 8 passenger vehicle, love the cool box, love the blind spot camera, and the ride is very smooth. It's very safe too. When I was in a bad accident in my 2016 Odyssey my children and I came out with only two of us having minir injuries. Definitely recommend this van!
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- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Pearl
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V GDI SOHC
- Stock #
- R267066
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H69TB067289
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- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
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- Bluetooth®
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- Moonroof
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- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
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- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
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- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
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Luther Hopkins HondaReviews
Luther Hopkins Honda review
As always it is a good experience dealing with Luther Honda. I have been buying cars and having them serviced there since 2005. It's wonderful to deal with a dealership that I can trust.
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- Ext. color
- Black Metallic
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- Black
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- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 gasoline direct injection, i-VTEC variable valve contro
- Stock #
- P7184
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H78SB057649
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- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
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- Keyless Entry
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- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
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- Brake Assist
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- Leather Seats
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Buerkle AcuraReviews
Buerkle Acura review
I was looking for a vehicle that would last me at least 7 years and be very dependable and versatile. I looked at Buick, Chevrolet, Jeep, GMC, Honda, and Acura. After much research and dealer shopping, I decided to buy from Buerkle Acura in Brooklyn Park. I met with a salesman Dennis Andrews. He was VERY helpful answering my questions and was very knowledgeable of the Acura vehicles. After some serious thinking, I decided on the 2015 Acura MDX. Dennis was very helpful with deciding which options (extras) to pick from, without ANY pressure and quick at getting the purchase written up and ready for the financing team. Dennis also called me a few days after my purchase, and told me if I had ANY concerns or questions to not hesitate to contact him. I have had the vehicle for a few weeks now and I am SO glad I chose the MDX. I could not be happier with Dennis, and Buerkle Acura. My wife has also purchased a Acura TSX from Buerkle Acura.
2025 Honda Odyssey review
Abe was amazing right off the bat. He had the van ready for me to test drive after communicating via email and coordinating a schedule around my little ones needs. We weighed options on models, colors, etc, and made my trade in experience easy peasy.
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- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 i-VTEC VCM variable valve control, regular unleaded, en
- Stock #
- A25013
- VIN
- 5FNRL386X7B454146
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
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- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Exterior
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
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- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
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Kings Motor Co.Reviews
Kings Motor Co. review
Very well, had car ready for me and the buying process went smoothly. I recommend them.
2007 Honda Odyssey review
My family (not me yet, because I'm 15 1/2) has had two Honda Odysseys over the past 9 years. As far as I can remember, the first one caused us very little issue beyond some A/C issues. It was totaled after some doofus hit us while attempting to cut across three lanes of very busy traffic. We bought a second one with just over 100K miles and it was great for a good while. The first repair I can recall was the brake rotors becoming warped and vibrating quite a bit under braking. For a while it was fine, and then small things began to go wrong. Sliding door stuttering (still works for the most part), hydraulics for the trunk going out (sub $100 fix), interior lights dying because of age, and navigation system becoming quite glitchy (DVD is from 2010 anyway). The only larger things are oil and power steering leaks (which are annoying, but manageable), A/C going out,and suspension gettting less firm. The main things still work, though. If you have a little bit of money to cover minor repairs as they come about, and take care of it and treat it like a minivan (not a sports car, because that's not what it is), I would recommend this minivan to the average Joe. As a matter of fact, I'm looking for one as my first car.
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- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 i-VTEC variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 5202
- VIN
- 5FNRL5H98CB087005
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
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- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
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- HomeLink
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- Alloy Wheels
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
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Original Owner AutosReviews
2012 Honda Odyssey review
This car is wider than other minivans, providing more space and legroom for the kids. It drives ultra smooth and is super comfortable. Only complaint is that there is only 1 built in USB port and is located in the glove compartment.
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- Ext. color
- Cypress
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 36-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE/VVT-i
- Stock #
- PL26853
- VIN
- 5TDKRKEC2TS294886
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- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
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- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
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- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
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- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Third Row Seating
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Maplewood ToyotaReviews
Maplewood Toyota review
Great experience all around very helpful staff and a stress free buying experience. Very smooth trade-in
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- Ext. color
- Midnight Black Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 34-36
- Fuel type
- Hybrid
- Transmission
- Variable
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 Hybrid w/VVT-iE DOHC 16V
- Stock #
- 6J2324T
- VIN
- 5TDJSKFCXSS175223
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Walser Chrysler Jeep Dodge RAMReviews
Walser Chrysler Jeep Dodge RAM review
Purchased a 2020 trailhawk and had a very good experience, A big thank you to Kyle, very good service and quick results. Great selection to choose from.
2025 Toyota Sienna review
Great vehicle, love the mileage, lots of space, our 6th toyota, nice interior, great seats xlt , nice sound system, great service at the dealership, excellent sales person
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- Ext. color
- Smoke Blue
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 10-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V GDI SOHC
- Stock #
- R267067
- VIN
- 5FNRL6H63TB066879
Features
- Convenience
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- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
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- Bluetooth®
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- Alloy Wheels
- Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
Dealer
Luther Hopkins HondaReviews
Luther Hopkins Honda review
I went in for service and left with a new car! Meng was great and everyone backing him up helped to make the entire experience smooth and pleasurable. Blake and Andres in service took care of my most recent CRV, while I discovered a new 2026 CRV to take home! I have been very happy with Luther Hopkins Honda and all the employees who have helped me there. I must say that I am also very happy with the Honda cars as well, especially enjoying the Hybrid CRV's. The choice below asks New, Used or Service. I picked Service, but could also fill in Sales (New).
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- Ext. color
- Metal
- Int. color
- Taupe
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC
- Stock #
- LGB77936
- VIN
- KNDNB5K32T6585556
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- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
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- Remote Start
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- Alloy Wheels
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- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
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- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
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Lupient KIA NissanReviews
Lupient KIA Nissan review
excellent I got very good support for test drive and many time of price and promotion discussion
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- Ice Cap
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 36-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE/VVT-i
- Stock #
- PL27002
- VIN
- 5TDKRKECXSS243733
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- Alloy Wheels
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- Third Row Seating
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Maplewood ToyotaReviews
Maplewood Toyota review
Juve was extremely friendly and made us feel comfortable. We will be buying here again!
2025 Toyota Sienna review
The center console is too high and big. I can hardly reach the glove compartment from driver’s seat and I have long arms. The second row seats do not lay flat, so they obstruct trying to look backwards. Cruise control with radar is nice. The fact that a gear shift is still present and headlight and windshield wipers haven’t changed much is great.
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Quick view Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Alabaster Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 SOHC i-VTEC 24V
- Stock #
- 7CH0009T
- VIN
- 5FNRL5H92CB004247
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
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- Alloy Wheels
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- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
- Third Row Seating
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Walser Nissan Coon RapidsReviews
Walser Nissan Coon Rapids review
My experience at Walser Nissan coonrapids was excellent Dayton kinde was my sales representative, very efficient, honest and professional as well as the manager Carl I would definitely recommend Walser Nissan to everyone looking for a new car there professionalism and follow up and patience was excellent!! From start to finish
2012 Honda Odyssey review
This car has met my family needs for 8 years. The next owner will be happy to purchase the car. It is a very good for family with kids.
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$21,750
Est. $379/mo The Car Buying Center
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- Ext. color
- Ruby Flare Pearl
- Int. color
- Chateau
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 36-36
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Dynamic Force 2.5L I-4 port/direct injection, DOHC, VVT-iE/VVT-i
- Stock #
- 073236
- VIN
- 5TDYRKEC4MS073236
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
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- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
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- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
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- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
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- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Third Row Seating
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The Car Buying CenterReviews
The Car Buying Center review
It was awsome to have you guys help me look for my sti, I feel lucky to have gotten to be the first person to go see it and get the car thx your awsomw!!!
2021 Toyota Sienna review
My Sienna XLE is a 2018 Braunability handicap van with the 285 hp V6. I bought it new, it has 40k miles. I’ve serviced by the book, replaced battery this year, put one set of tires on it, and have driven it like I stole it. It’s never missed a beat, is comfortable, durable, dependable, averages 19 mpg on short runs of 15-25 miles. To my dismay, Toyota Sienna’s are only available after 2020 with the 245 ho 4 cylinder hybrid. I may be forced to buy a 4 cylinder Sienna, but I sure don’t want to. Don’t like the looks of the Honda, Pacifica, or others.🥴🥲
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- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Rear-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 20-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70052121
- VIN
- NM0AE8F75E1150161
Features
- Safety
- Backup Camera
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CarMax Tinley ParkReviews
CarMax Tinley Park review
Wouldn't do it any other way. I was very well treated and the buying process was quick and painless. The vehicle I liked was taken offline for 2 days until I was able to go to the dealer and test drive it. I thought that was a pretty nice feature.
2014 Ford Transit Connect review
I've owned a 2010 Transit Connect since 2014 and it has been the best vehicle I've owned. I use it for work and haul a lot of movie production gear in it. Most of the time it stays half full and I drive it that way. It's been reliable and only needed standard maintenance, except for the transmission. I knew the transmission was a weak link when I bought it at 94,000 mis. It bit the dust at 120,000 mis. I had a rebuilt one installed and was assured that it'll be good for another 120,000 mis. I'm at 160,000 and it is still going strong.
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$8,996
Est. $157/mo Lenz Truck - Minocqua, WI
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- Ext. color
- Billet Silver Metallic Clearcoat
- Int. color
- Black/Beige
- Drivetrain
- Front-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 17-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.6L V-6 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- MZB6923
- VIN
- 2C4RC1CG9FR547750
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- DVD Player
- Rear Seat Entertainment
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
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- Leather Seats
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Lenz Truck - Minocqua, WIReviews
Lenz Truck - Minocqua, WI review
Jake was wonderful to work with. I will be telling everyone to go to lenz and ask for Jake
2015 Chrysler Town & Country review
This is my fifth Mopar van, three Town & Country models, two Dodge Grand Caravans. When it comes to vans, there are none made better than Chrysler's T&C and the Caravan. My first, a 99 Caravan, went 300,000 miles before having a transmission issue but the motor still ran flawlessly. My 2014 T&C gets a solid 27.8 mpg on the trips we have taken and no other issues have ever interrupted our travels. If I was a millionaire I would have an entire fleet of T&Cs, in every color available. I'd make sure all my friends had one and maybe my enemies too! Why they discontinued such a great model is just baffling!