Used Subaru Forester for sale in Summit, IL
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Autumn Green Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- PG2909
- VIN
- JF2SLDDC8SH547969
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Mcgrath Evanston SubaruReviews
Mcgrath Evanston Subaru review
They were prompt, polite, and very informative! They got me right away & I felt taken care of.
2025 Subaru Forester review
My Forester is roomy enough for me and several passengers, yet small enough to park easily. It’s reliable, responsive, and I get 35 mpg. The safety features are excellent.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Sepia Bronze Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- LH465053
- VIN
- JF2SKAGC9LH465053
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Subaru Evergreen ParkReviews
Subaru Evergreen Park review
If you’re in the market for a car, this is the location for you. Blanca Ceron and the team at this Evergreen location really take care of you. They listen to your needs and wants and patiently make recommendations that align with your priorities and lifestyle based on their knowledge and available financing. That’s exactly what they did this weekend when I visited. I came in undecided and left with a car I love at a price that I’m happy about. Every step of the way, Blanca made sure my best interests were kept in mind. I never felt pressured, just informed about my options. Thank you, Blanca and the EP Subaru team!
2020 Subaru Forester review
The Forester is the first SUV I ever owned. It has had a few issues, but the dealership, Kenny Ross in Irwin Pa, has always been top notch in customer service. First issue was the orignal tires went bald after only 10,000 miles. I called Kenny Ross and they said they would contact corporate. Got 4 new tires at no charge. Next issue I did not even know I had. Took it in for an oil change and they tell me I need a new CVT. Didn't know I had a problem. No charge again. Last issue was a radio that kept giving an error message and would not work. Took four visits to isolate the problem, but now have a new radio that brings in more stations. Again for free. Highly recommend the bumper to bumper warranty. Money well spent.
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$27,377
Est. $509/mo International Autos Jaguar, Land Rover, Subaru, Volvo Cars
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Horizon Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- SH403149
- VIN
- JF2SLDAC1SH403149
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
International Autos Jaguar, Land Rover, Subaru, Volvo CarsReviews
International Autos Jaguar, Land Rover, Subaru, Volvo Cars review
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ I recently purchased a Subaru Crosstrek at Subaru International at Orland Park. This was the best car-buying experience I’ve ever had! My sales person was Tome Jimenez, he was very friendly, knowledgeable, patient, and genuinely interested in helping me find the right vehicle without any pressure. Tome made my purchase a great experience. Everyone involved was very helpful and friendly. I appreciated the excellent customer service, and I would gladly recommend them to family and friends.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Quartz Blue
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- 26418A
- VIN
- JF2SJABC2JH560657
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Grand SubaruReviews
Grand Subaru review
I'm a.long time customer at Grand Subaru. Even though it's quite a distance from my home, I still go back there for all of my regular maintenance because they offer such excellent and efficient service. Although they offer a pickup service, I always choose to go in wait there, because they never take long, and the waiting area is pleasant. Any work that needs to be done is well explained, and everyone is pleasant to deal with.
2018 Subaru Forester review
Love my 2018 limited Forester , Great as you the very comfortable love how it drives good gas mileage so far.. highly recommend this car great for transporting kids also… Very quiet driving experience
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- PG2910
- VIN
- JF2SLDDC6SH578279
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Mcgrath Evanston SubaruReviews
Mcgrath Evanston Subaru review
I had a service appointment: car was taken in immediately & serviced quickly; good ongoing communication by text.
2025 Subaru Forester review
Bought this car and took off for a 2000miles trip so learned along the way, Not a speed demon but enough to get into traffic and gas mileage is great...over 30 on highway. my only complaint was I couldn't see during a bad storm because the center screen was so bright it was blinding me and had to turn it off. I have over 15000miles on it and owned for over a year and I would buy another one,
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- T43670A
- VIN
- JF2SKAUC1KH590101
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Toyota of NapervilleReviews
Toyota of Naperville review
Great place. Up front honesty and not pushy at all. I would definitely return to purchase a vehicle here again.
2019 Subaru Forester review
We own three Foresters in my family. They all are super cars in any weathers and we have never had any problems with them. We do all service work at the dealership and have been really happy with them.
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$31,325
Est. $582/mo Mcgrath Evanston Subaru
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Regular gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- 35729A
- VIN
- JF2SKARC8PH520241
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Mcgrath Evanston SubaruReviews
Mcgrath Evanston Subaru review
Car drop off for maintenance and repair was very convenient. No appointments needed. Work completed on time. Precise and accurate paper works with recommended maintenance.
2023 Subaru Forester review
LOVE this car, maybe a little biased since this is my 5th Forester, my 2nd Wilderness. My first Wilderness was totaled in a head-on collision when a young driver spilled coffee and veered into my lane and struck me head-on. That was my 1st Subaru Forester Wilderness and IT SAVED MY LIFE. Full curtain all-around airbag deployment with a roll, the Wilderness coming to rest on it's right side, me still strapped into seatbelt, and the Subaru automatic crash notification with a live person on the speakers asking me if I was ok and needed 911! Smoke still coming from the airbag deployments, and there is a live person coming over the speakers asking me if I'm ok. It was surreal. SUBARU FORESTER WILDERNESS SAVED MY LIFE! TYVM Subaru! LOVE this car! Gets 25+ MPG with conservative driving, a great ride and suspension, superior traction in mud and snow, load-out practically anything/rack bikes (or whatever on the roof racks), sleep in the back with ample room, superior rear-gate lift mechanism with memory, seats super-comfortable and easily adjustable, solid rear-seat leg-room, easy rear-seat fold-downs for massive cargo area that takes my full HVAC tool load-out for servicing ice baths all over the NorthEast US. A great value, especially CPO with +10K mileage (vs. new) MONEY WELL SPENT! SUBARU FOR LIFE
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$11,410
Est. $212/mo Fox Valley Volkswagen of St. Charles
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Dark Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- V12540AA
- VIN
- JF2SJADC5FH490799
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Fox Valley Volkswagen of St. CharlesReviews
Fox Valley Volkswagen of St. Charles review
Fernando Rodriguez was an amazing help in our search for a used car for my son. His follow up was great and went out of his way to get answers for all of our questions and concerns!! Thanks again Fernando!!!
2015 Subaru Forester review
Perfect for short people!! Great visibility with minimal blind spots. Reliable. Safe. Holds its value. Bought from Joe at Salton Motors. Excellent experience. I won’t own anything else. Great car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 32-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- CVT
- Engine
- H4 2.5L Natural Aspiration
- Stock #
- HH521641STK
- VIN
- JF2SJAJC7HH521641
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
New WheelsReviews
New Wheels review
We were looking for a car for my son. The guys at New Wheels were friendly, honest, helpful. They followed up on their promises. We got the perfect car for my son. Will definitely recommend to friends!
2017 Subaru Forester review
The Forester is a great value. It is roomy yet extremely nimble. Our average fuel economy is 30mpg with plenty of power. It has great visibility with no blind spots. The all wheel drive works well. It is great when you have to drive in bad weather. My only complaint is dealership service costs seem high, even for routine services. Independent garages have more reasonable costs. There have been no major repairs needed on our Subaru. We were a Honda family ( 20+ yrs) so changing to the Subaru was a big deal. We were not disappointed.
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$24,991
Est. $464/mo Advantage Chevrolet of Bridgeview
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Silica
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- JP3232
- VIN
- JF2SKADC3RH478474
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Advantage Chevrolet of BridgeviewReviews
Advantage Chevrolet of Bridgeview review
Jason was great, very welcoming and friendly. I got along with him very fast and had a pleasant experience.
2024 Subaru Forester review
the forester sport is very reliable get 26 mpg on most of my daily commutes. Drives great in the winter (even though I have the same tires they came with). Traveling in it on road trips are great, 31 mpg using the cruise control and lane assist. It's not a very fast SUV but it honestly worth it. I tend to speed, but it's not something that actually bothers me. I was worried it would be too sluggish. I picked the forester for my road trips, and extra stuff I drive with.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Saddle Brown
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- 260240A
- VIN
- JF2SKAXC1LH583839
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Grand SubaruReviews
Grand Subaru review
I worked with George Calvillo. It was a late night deal. He handled everything smoothly. Helped set up phone and radio stations. Handled Anxious call the next morning when I realized the car does not have front camera! If you’re looking at a car at this dealership, I highly recommend you work with George!!
2020 Subaru Forester review
This is my first Subaru and I’m so impressed! Just a great drive! I love the safety and convenience features…but I also just love to drive again!!!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Daybreak Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 gasoline direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control
- Stock #
- R34181
- VIN
- 4S4SLDA61T3017561
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Mcgrath Evanston Subaru -
$36,480
New 2026 Subaru Forester Premium 
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$36,085
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$43,010
New 2026 Subaru Forester Touring 
$39,149
New 2026 Subaru Forester Wilderness 
$39,744
New 2026 Subaru Forester Sport 
$39,349
New 2026 Subaru Forester Sport 
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New 2026 Subaru Forester Wilderness -
Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Venetian Red Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L 4-Cylinder DOHC 16V VVT
- Stock #
- V25555A
- VIN
- JF2SJABC7FH582788
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Volvo Cars LisleReviews
Volvo Cars Lisle review
What a deal. Bought a 21 Challenger Scat Pack lowest price in country by thousands! Car was in mint condition, they were fast efficient and honest!The trade in process was simple gave me top dollar for my trade even though they gave me smoking deal on car! Bob is the best thank you and good luck!
2015 Subaru Forester review
Bought my 2015 Subaru 2.0XT Touring brand spanking new off the Subaru dealership's lot. Have owned it all this time about 9 years straight. Take care of your car with regular oil changes, servicing at recommended intervals, and your car will take care of you. Performed the required recalls during service periods. Not 1 single regret on owning this car, ever. It rides smooth and true. Had a clicking issue in the ball joints 2 years ago which Subaru fixed free of charge. Other than that, this car has been my dream machine.
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$20,411
Est. $379/mo The Autobarn Volkswagen of Countryside
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- CV40474A
- VIN
- JF2SKARCXLH432950
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
The Autobarn Volkswagen of CountrysideReviews
The Autobarn Volkswagen of Countryside review
Very happy with Jonathan and the service he provided
2020 Subaru Forester review
I have a 2020 Forester with 19000 miles. I love it, especially as a tall and aging man. It it easy to drive, easy to get in and get out. Miles per gallon is great, typically well over 30 mpg in day to day city driving. I have noticed a number of complaints about batteries. I think in 2019-2020 they had a bad supplier of batteries. My experience was total battery failure at about 10000 miles. I had to purchase a replacement from AAA. Such stories were common during that period. I was irritated but received reimbursement even though it is not typical for a dealer/car company to do so. Smart dealers want to keep your business. The only other expenses were created by potholes knocking the car out of allignment and nails in parking lots puncturing the same tire twice! Sweep your xxxx parking lots retailers and restaurants.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Tan
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unl
- Stock #
- 474089
- VIN
- JF2SJARC3FH474089
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
BG MotorcarsReviews
BG Motorcars review
Troy and Michelle Ross, my wife and I were looking for a car for oiur son and daughter. We had the wonderful experience of working with Tarique and Wafa not sure if I spelled it correctly but they were awesome taking the time to work with us and having us test drive many vehicle before finding the perfect Subaru Outback . We have had the car for several months now and love it! great features and even better buying experience along with good price made this purchase a good experience!
2015 Subaru Forester review
Bought this car three years old with less than 50K miles on it. I’ve loved it since we got it. It has been very reliable, fun to drive, with pretty minor drawbacks. For example the maintenance has been very minimal. I haven’t noticed ANY oil burning or leaking (I have personally changed the oil every 3-4K miles). Sometimes on long trips it will burn some oil and need a top off, which the car alerts us to. Overall I’d buy this car over and over as long as it fit my needs at the time. Currently looking into an Ascent for future hockey trips and other trips.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- T469559
- VIN
- JF2SJAHC7GH469559
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Elmhurst FordReviews
Elmhurst Ford review
Rory Clemons was amazing and easy to deal with. Thank you Rory and Ray for making the process simple and easy.
2016 Subaru Forester review
I've never owned a Subaru before but after purchasing the Forester, I may never own anything but a Subaru again! I love the Eyesight Drivers Assistant that it came equipped with. I can see why this car has one of the best safety ratings out there. The interior is very open, spacious, & comfortable and the panoramic sunroof is amazing! It drives and handles like a dream. I would recommend this car to anyone. You won't be disappointed!
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$27,474
Est. $511/mo Mcgrath Evanston Subaru
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- 35588A
- VIN
- JF2SKAPC6PH528258
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Mcgrath Evanston SubaruReviews
2023 Subaru Forester review
The radio and the heat settings leave a lot to be desired. If you’re looking for a heater setting, you won’t find it. Nothing annoys me more than unrequested updates on flood watch/warning. it just can’t be tailored to exactly where you live. But every 6 minutes is a bit of overkill. And our previous Forester had a tray in the middle storage (glove box). Even though we asked our salesman about that, we have heard nothing. Missing the change tray a lot.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- BG8410A
- VIN
- JF2SKAGC5RH416473
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
BMW of Orland ParkReviews
BMW of Orland Park review
Mateen has been very helpful in our decision as to which vehicle to choose. He laid out options and scenarios that guided our decisions. Mateen was open to questions, he provided clear answers and has kept a pleasant and cheerful demeanor throughout our transaction that we left happy and content. Highly recommend him.
2024 Subaru Forester review
I’ve owned this car for about 18 months. It has I bought it new and it now has about 17,000 miles on it. I love driving it. The safety features are excellent! The performance is good. I’m getting around 32 MPG for all around driving. I have the car maintained at the dealership and haven’t had any mechanical issues. I would definitely recommend this car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Satin White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 2809
- VIN
- JF2SJAHC2FH529228
Features
- Convenience
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Cars R Us ChicagoReviews
Cars R Us Chicago review
The service and the kindness of the staff they were very friendly ,thank you chris for your generosity. Bought a used Subaru Impreza at a really great price. Had trouble with the AC they helped me fix it with no charge! Great experience
2015 Subaru Forester review
I bought this car in 2014...best car I ever owned. Have only replaced tires and am about to replace brakes. Now my husband wants one too.
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$24,991
Est. $464/mo Advantage Chevrolet of Bridgeview
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal Black Silica
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- JP3232
- VIN
- JF2SKADC3RH478474
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Advantage Chevrolet of BridgeviewReviews
Advantage Chevrolet of Bridgeview review
Jason was great, very welcoming and friendly. I got along with him very fast and had a pleasant experience.
2024 Subaru Forester review
the forester sport is very reliable get 26 mpg on most of my daily commutes. Drives great in the winter (even though I have the same tires they came with). Traveling in it on road trips are great, 31 mpg using the cruise control and lane assist. It's not a very fast SUV but it honestly worth it. I tend to speed, but it's not something that actually bothers me. I was worried it would be too sluggish. I picked the forester for my road trips, and extra stuff I drive with.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetite Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- P3748
- VIN
- JF2SLDRCXSH524055
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Dick Wickstrom ChevroletReviews
Dick Wickstrom Chevrolet review
Wickstrom Chevrolet?s service dept is ALWAYS 5 Stars starting with advisors Armando and Robert who are courteous, knowledgeable and professional. The technicians get the work done right! Very pleased long time customer. Definately would recommend Wickstrom Service Dept.
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$12,776
Est. $237/mo Your Choice Auto Sales of Elgin
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Jasmine Green Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 DOHC, variable valve control, regular unleaded, engine
- Stock #
- EYC-522775
- VIN
- JF2SJADC8GH522775
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Your Choice Auto Sales of ElginReviews
Your Choice Auto Sales of Elgin review
Both Kay and Niko made the process very smooth. received a friendly and professional service from walking in to leaving with a SUV. Would highly recommend for new buyers.
2016 Subaru Forester review
I was impressed how well I can see out of the car at all angles. It is difficult for me to turn my body due to neck, hip and back problems. I am 5'10" and have very long legs. This car also has alot of head and leg room. My daughter rides comfortably in her booster seat in the middle seat. I feel I have more control and better handling with this car then any other. I have had a Honda Accord, Volvo XC90, Toyota Corolla and Cadillac Deville in recent years. My only complaint is the front seats are uncomfortable. (My other car is a Deville which feels like a recliner.) There isn't anything fancy about the car but I just have the base model. I am happy with all the features and the gas mileage is awesome. There is a ton on truck space.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ice Silver Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- 267023A
- VIN
- JF2SKAMC0NH428562
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Bill Kay ChevroletReviews
Bill Kay Chevrolet review
Staff was amazing and got me what I wanted. I told them a price I wanted to spend and they did not try to sell me anything more.
2022 Subaru Forester review
I purchased the 2023 Wilderness trim in August and I chose it because I live in a very snowy and mountainous area. I certainly needed an upgrade from my trusty 2wd, low-clearance hatchback. I can watch the season change with more peace of mind with its high clearance, AWD and features like Starlink and X-mode ready to step in when called upon. I’m a huge fan of the vehicle’s exterior styling and the interior feels luxurious and durable. The cabin is well-insulated from engine and road noise. One drawback is that the sound system lacks depth even with the base turned all the way up (I don’t have the Harmon Kardon stereo option). I’ve never owned a car with a sunroof before and I love letting in extra daylight and looking up at the cliffs and trees during stops so I can’t imagine life without it, now. Even the low beam headlights provide clear-as-day visibility on the darkest nights, but I’d be worried about blinding other drivers so I’d give more follow distance. Many reviewers seem dissatisfied with its acceleration, but it hasn’t felt underpowered to me and I drive a Chevy Suburban for work. It feels like I’m barely touching the accelerator to cruise up steep grades, but I’m a leisurely driver so my expectations differ. :)
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Dark Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- 260415A
- VIN
- JF2SKAGC8KH450106
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Grand SubaruReviews
Grand Subaru review
Grand Subaru was the 1st and only dealer to quote online and got my sale because of it and Emanuel who was my sales rep.
2019 Subaru Forester review
Love my Forester only drawback is the tires are made of a soft compound and you only get 25k miles then they need to be replaced.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Daybreak Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- 26514
- VIN
- 4S4SLDA63T3061674
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Grand SubaruReviews
Grand Subaru review
Great experience with my service advisor, Joe Bednarek. He was very helpful, explained the repairs clearly, and made the whole process easy. He went above and beyond.
2026 Subaru Forester review
I never drove a Subaru before and I am so happy with this car. It handles well and is great on gas!! It has many safety features! I wanted an SUV that had all wheel drive that you can use over 25 miles per hour in snowy conditions. This car has that! Really happy with my purchase!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Dark Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- PK5649
- VIN
- JF2SJARC2JH474691
Features
- Convenience
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Willowbrook Ford KiaReviews
Willowbrook Ford Kia review
Sam did a great job, looking and inspecting things for me! Gave the car a wash and filled tires with air!
2018 Subaru Forester review
Great value considering the superior safety features, low maintenance and reliability. Rear wheel bearings have been replaced twice and just had the AC compressor and serpentine belt replaced. Albeit expensive repairs, all cars need something after the first 3 years. It's been 8 years and the car still run and drives like new.
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$26,916
Est. $500/mo Mcgrath Evanston Subaru
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cascade Green Silica
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- 35718A
- VIN
- JF2SKAEC7PH414174
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Mcgrath Evanston SubaruReviews
2023 Subaru Forester review
This is our second Forester. Our first was a 2011 Premium we bought as a CPO in 2014 and unfortunately went through the headache of excessive oil consumption within months of buying it. Subaru did eventually replace the engine short block on their dime, but only after repeated oil consumption tests and being told by the dealer service department that it was within normal limits. Calling Subaru of America was the only way we got it resolved. I was impressed that they approved the service, and that's the reason we bought another Subaru. We also have a 2018 Outback Premium in our garage--no oil consumption, and no major issues except replacing the radio for failed lighting behind the volume knob and a minor leak in the oil pan (no dripping underneath the car though) at about 42k miles. We like our 2023 Forester Sport overall, and first and foremost we like its excellent safety ratings and features. I will say the ride is much firmer than our Outback which is only a couple hundred pounds heavier. Wish it had a little more storage in the center console and beneath the climate controls. We look forward to many years of driving with the Forester (and our Outback). Based on our experience, I do feel getting a Subaru-backed extended warranty is worth it for peace of mind (we bought them for our first Forester and now our Outback and both eventually paid for themselves). You DON'T have to buy the warranty when you purchase the vehicle. Call different dealers in your state and ask for their price on an extended warranty for your vehicle--we saved hundreds of dollars by doing this. You have until your manufacturer warranty expires to add an extended warranty.
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$27,401
Est. $509/mo Napleton's Schaumburg Subaru
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crimson Red Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- SS101331A
- VIN
- JF2SLDAC4SH473213
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Napleton's Schaumburg SubaruReviews
Napleton's Schaumburg Subaru review
I had a genuinely great experience at Napleton Subaru. From the moment I walked in, the dealership felt welcoming, professional, and low-pressure — which is not always easy to find when car shopping. The staff was knowledgeable, patient, and transparent throughout the entire process. What really stood out was the individual attention and care I received. I never felt rushed or pushed into decisions, and every question I had was answered honestly and thoroughly. The team made the experience smooth, organized, and surprisingly stress-free. It’s clear that customer experience matters here, and that made all the difference. I left feeling confident in my purchase and appreciated as a customer. Highly recommend Napleton Subaru to anyone looking for a dealership that treats people with respect and professionalism.
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$34,627
Est. $643/mo International Autos Jaguar, Land Rover, Subaru, Volvo Cars
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- River Rock Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-28
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- T3037208
- VIN
- 4S4SLDL61T3037208
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
International Autos Jaguar, Land Rover, Subaru, Volvo CarsReviews
International Autos Jaguar, Land Rover, Subaru, Volvo Cars review
I am an older woman and was pretty concerned about buying a car on my own. My husband passed and it was pretty overwhelming to do this. My salesman was amazing. The process was very smooth. I totally recommend this dealer.
2026 Subaru Forester review
Rid is my third Subaru since 1984. First was a Subaru station wagon, had for 20 yrs, 220,000 miles. Second was a 2004 Subaru Forester. Just sold to another individual for $2,000 with 184,000 miles on it. Still running, original air, only issue was check engine light being on and couldn’t find what issue was. New owner thinks he may have identified and hoping to be fixed. I was hoping he might get another 100,000 miles out of car. He said he would be thrilled with 50,000. Just bought a brand new 2026 basic Forester. Love it even with all the new electronics on it.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Daybreak Blue Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- 26185
- VIN
- 4S4SLDB63T3031489
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Grand SubaruReviews
Grand Subaru review
Grand Subaru has really helped me in keeping my cross trek well maintained and safe on the road thank you Grand Subaru for keeping me safe on the road.
2026 Subaru Forester review
I just recently purchased my first Subaru although all of my family members owned them for years. I purchased a touring Forester and I love it It is spacious and very quiet and ride beautifully. It's a great value and my insurance company agrees with the safeties of Subaru.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70162765
- VIN
- JF2SLDHC6SH578213
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarMax GulfportReviews
2025 Subaru Forester review
My first Subaru although each of my kids had a used one as their first cars. Very well made, It is quite comfortable but I wish the seats went up a little bit more. I bought the Premium model and it has everything you could ask for. Handles great, has more than enough oomph, and I am averaging around 26.5 mpg in mostly city driving. Took a 200 mile out and back trip, and averaged 34.8 mpg. I will certainly buy another Subaru when it is time, usually every 2-3 years.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-33
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H4 16V GDI DOHC
- Stock #
- F5187
- VIN
- JF2SKAJCXMH571215
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- Lane Departure Warning
- Stability Control
Dealer
Andy Mohr FordReviews
Andy Mohr Ford review
The overall experience of buying a new vehicle was quick and easy. We were able to get the vehicle we wanted and the price and terms that were acceptable to us.
2021 Subaru Forester review
Other than battery replacement , car has been amazing ! 1 exception cup holders are located too far aft and require driver to look down to locate cup without removing eyes from road ! This issue has been partially addressed in later years by offsetting passengers holder slightly forward of drivers, but still awkward position ! both should be more forward nearer to dash !