Used compact SUVs for sale near Batavia, IL
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$26,428
Est. $490/mo Ron Tirapelli Ford
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Ruby Red Metallic
- Int. color
- Medium Lt Smoked Truffle
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- EcoBoost 1.5L I-3 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve co
- Stock #
- T11090
- VIN
- 3FMCR9BN2SRE33463
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
Dealer
Ron Tirapelli FordReviews
Ron Tirapelli Ford review
Amazing experience, i recommend them as I’ve been shopping around for a while and they were by far the best!
2025 Ford Bronco Sport review
I have owned my Bronco Sport for a month. I am very satisfied with the performance and comfort. I highly recommend purchasing if your looking for one. It's quiet riding and I like the large screen. SO far so good. no complaints.
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$56,903
Est. $1,055/mo St Charles Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Uyuni White
- Int. color
- Sevilla Red/Obsidian Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, tw
- Stock #
- C9808
- VIN
- 5NMMEDTC7TH049877
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Tow Hitch
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
St Charles Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
St Charles Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
best i have had buying a car and i do not like buying cars at dealer
2026 Genesis GV70 review
This is my third Genesis GV70 and obviously I must love this vehicle. I have done side by side comparisons with Lincoln, Lexus, Infiniti and Audi and none offer what the GV70 does for the price. This is a great. luxurious ride and the Advanced model has more features than you could ever use!!
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Cinnabar Metallic
- Int. color
- Ebony w/Ebony Accents
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 9-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- H35112A
- VIN
- LRBFZPR43PD206994
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
D'Arcy HyundaiReviews
D'Arcy Hyundai review
First time i actually had a good experience at a dealership. I bought our last cars at two different kia dealers before and about blew my top and probably should have walked out. We got my wife a new elantra at Darcy and we got a reasonable trade in offer and the new car at a reasonable price and got a good loan. Jimmy was cool kept things relaxed. If i replace my car at some point I’ll probably come here. Only complaint was the detail the must have used a dirty or rough cloth hood may need a little buff.
2023 Buick Envision review
Just had my first major car repair at 44k miles. Some steering sensor that could cause me to lose power steering. Had I not had the extended warranty I would be responsible for the $5k repair bill. We are barely out of the manufacturers warranty! Other than that, I love this car but already expecting to get rid of in the next year due to the unknown.
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$28,998
Est. $538/mo CarMax Naperville
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29239618
- VIN
- JM3KFBCM0S0805184
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax NapervilleReviews
CarMax Naperville review
Dealt with this CarMax dealer over the phone and email. Tried to negotiate a price based on other dealers in the area for the same vehicle and was told that the price listed was the price you pay!
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$22,073
Est. $409/mo INFINITI of Clarendon Hills
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Machine Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V GDI DOHC Turbo
- Stock #
- SL0261A
- VIN
- JM3KFBDY1K0589055
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
INFINITI of Clarendon HillsReviews
INFINITI of Clarendon Hills review
Today I went in for an oil change for my mom , and I talk to the manager about light grinding noises that I heard when my mom was turning only. Firestone told her she needed brakes and the manager Tony had my mom‘s car pulled up on the lift, and the brakes were fine, but when the mechanic was taking the wheel off, he noticed that there was some play and it turned out to be a wheel bearing. If you’ve ever seen anyone with a wheel that fell off their car on the highway. That probably would’ve been my mom because she Hand some teenager at fire stone Check it out telling her she need brakes. It didn’t make any sense because she just did her brakes like 12,000 miles ago. Always get a second opinion..
2019 Mazda CX-5 review
This is my second CX-5. This first was a 2016 I bought in 2019 and loved tremendously and then it was totaled when I was rear-ended by someone texting and driving during Covid. I drove a sort of hand-me-down Jeep for a while during the weird Covid period when everything was uncertain but knew I wanted another CX-5 as soon as I felt financially comfortable. The car is extremely comfortable, handles well and has a beautiful streamlined and simply classic look. My partner who is a die-hard Mercedes snob even loves it!
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$27,998
Est. $519/mo CarMax Schaumburg
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29265968
- VIN
- JM3KFBCM4S0808315
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax Schaumburg -





Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70237197
- VIN
- JM3KE4CYXG0828125
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
Dealer
CarMax SchaumburgReviews
CarMax Schaumburg review
Communicated with John Leno from the Schaumburg facility online. John understood my needs and responded quickly with Jeeps to review - after a bit of humming and hawing on my part, I changed my mind to trucks. I found a truck at another facility, John had it tranferred and within 2 days my soon to be truck arrived - and it is a beauty. John was training Matt and they both demonstrated immense knowledge throughout the interaction and I appreciated the ease of communication (not pushy). I cannot comment on the financing portion of the transaction, but closing went just as smoothly with Hubert and his supervisor. WHile impressed with my transaction I was also impressed with the amount of time that was placed on the training of new employees, or employees transferring. While yes my truck need a repair on the fog lights, it is covered under their warranty, I am highly impressed with my experience. From walking in the front door, to having John take my picture of me and my truck with a giant yellow ribbon... every individual at Carmax truly made the buying and trading experience a wonderful experience. Team Schaumburg, keep up the great work, each of you understand the true meaning of Customer Service, and that is important to some customers like me who still cherish old school values.
2016 Mazda CX-5 review
Whether you’re an enthusiast or not, you will enjoy this thing until the wheels fall off. Now, if you’re an enthusiast, or just someone who loves the feel of the road underneath you but needs something fairly practical? This is the car for you. With ample power, and steering feel that would put some sports cars to shame, you will feel confident, and often joyous when behind the wheel of the CX-5, especially with the Manual version that came in the “Sport” trim! Although that engine is suggested to be fairly gutless. However, if you prefer the automatic versions with the larger engine, like in my Grand Touring trim, you will absolutely be able to enjoy the road, regardless of the local speed limit. The CX-5 may not be the fastest car in its class, but it surely is the most fun, and the best value among its competitors.. but it’s mainly just fun. I recently got my CX-5 at my local dealer, and it has done nothing but get me to work when I want it to, taken me on small trips to wherever I want, and without any real complaints. Only times it gets annoyed with me is if I need to pass anybody at highway, but that’s what makes it so much fun to live with in my opinion, especially with the little rev-happy 4-pot motors that it can come with. In conclusion, if you want a sub-compact crossover.. but also want the feel of Mazda’s own roadster? Get the CX-5. It will bring you as many smiles per gallon as you need it to.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28804130
- VIN
- JM3KFBBM9P0286273
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
Dealer
CarMax SchaumburgReviews
CarMax Schaumburg review
Yesterday I purchased a car by phone for the first time. As a senior citizen I sold my car on the 9th of March thinking I would get totally travel by taxi or Uber or Lyft but I under estimated the value of getting up and going when you like. The team at CarMax from beginning to directions to the highway were the very best. Each and every member made me feel valued as a customer. And feel like they were treating me like they would their family members. You could not ask for more than that. Bj
2023 Mazda CX-5 review
I am delighted with my 2023 CX-5 Signature in the hard-to-find Eternal Blue. I've had it about one year now and it's more than adequate for my driving needs. No, I don't need a rattle-prone pano sunroof. The six-speed non-CVT transmission is just fine. Never need or use(less) the paddle shifters. Performance with regular fuel is just fine. As an "early senior", I don't need huge cargo or passenger space. Only complaints are the Apple CarPlay isn't wireless; and miss the power tilt/telescope steering wheel and power memory exit seat that I had on my unbeloved '20 Lexus NX (which I was glad to get rid of!). All told, I'm a Mazda believer and buh-bye Lexus!
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$52,907
Est. $981/mo Tyson Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-25
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 3.5L V6 24V PDI DOHC Twin Turbo
- Stock #
- J25550A
- VIN
- 5NMMEDTC0TH037084
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Tyson Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAMReviews
Tyson Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM review
Just bought a new Challenger Scat Pak from Rex at Tyson Motors in Shorewood. Rex was great to work with throughout the purchase process. His product knowledge is excellent without being pushy. If you want a Dodge product, call Rex!
2026 Genesis GV70 review
The pick up is unbelievable. The comfort is unbelievable. The styling is unbelievable The car is unbelievable. I get more compliments on this car. Buy it and you get way better value than a Mercedes or a Lexus.
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$27,998
Est. $519/mo CarMax Schaumburg
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-31
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29130405
- VIN
- JM3KFBCL1R0496813
Features
- Convenience
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax SchaumburgReviews
2024 Mazda CX-5 review
This is my first CX-5. I love it. Previously I drove a mazda tribute which was a 6 cylinder. I was reluctant to purchase a smaller vehicle with a smaller engine, but I’ve been pleased. My only negative comment is regarding the leg room in the back seat. It’s not great but workable for most average size adults.
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$25,998
Est. $482/mo CarMax Schaumburg
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29264668
- VIN
- JM3KFBCM1S0697139
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax SchaumburgReviews
CarMax Schaumburg review
Bought 4 cars thier in 10 years they our best in sales and service staff the best service is out standing they care alot for customers
2025 Mazda CX-5 review
I bought a new 2025 Mazda CX-5 Signature before they were gone and no longer available because I really like that this car though not perfect and to some people kind of dated in design and execution but to me is full of good elements that future cars including the 2026 CX-5 will lack. Exterior styling that does not get old quickly and still looks good without being too flashy. A great interior that looks and feels premium with quality soft touch materials throughout. An engine ( Turbo ) and transmission (Not a CVT!!!) combo that makes driving a pleasure. The way the suspension is setup is another thing about this car that makes me want to go for a ride any chance I get. The meaty steering feel , not over assisted and numb. This is a compact SUV that shouldn't feel this enjoyable to drive but it does. You sit a bit higher and taller in the saddle and have a good view ahead and around you with the nice large mirrors and 360 cameras . When my wife is riding next me enjoys the view. The wind shield is not too big and far away and steeply raked which is easier to clean inside and doesn't heat the interior up. The controls some might call old fashioned or retro but as far as I am concerned you just cannot improve on dedicated knobs and buttons for hvac and interor functions and the well placed controls on the steering wheel, drivers door and center consol ( The large control dial and volume knob are perfect!). And who doesn't love a good old shifter with a nice looking leatherette boot at the bottom of it retro but in a good way! Yes ok the the gauge cluster isn't over the top with flashy effects and the infotanment setup and screen size are dated but for me that's a good thing. I don't need too much tech or too much screen, this is more than enough for me, Call me an old fashioned nerd but I prefer books to screens anyday! The Bose stereo sounds good but isn't mind blowing just a good step up from the base unit. This feels like a very well sorted out and put together vehicle. You get in it and drive. No fiddling fumbling and adjusting this and that . You get in adjust your seat and mirrors and go. The pure enjoyment of just how well this car behaves in my hands makes me enjoy driving it. It feels tight and solid with a firm ride that tames rough roads well without being too floaty or harsh and punishing. I think it's a very good balance that rewards the drivers with good driving dynamics and fun. The brakes are solid, competant and feel right from the get go and take no getting used to. The turbo engine is really torquey and doesn't need to be over rev'd to get it to pull. It has a nice sound without sounding silly. Gas milage is not the best but I figured that to be and accept it. The tranny works well with engine. It is smooth and does what a good transmission should do almost invisably with no clunkiness or gear hunting. The CX-5 interior is nice comfortable ( and dare I say somewhat elegant and classy ) the dark Caturra brown nappa leather seats with contrasting stitching and perferations for heating front and back and cooling in the front look beautiful and myself and my passengers find very comfortable. The rest of the interior is mostly black with real wood trim ( Who does that anymore) The interior is quiet with no sqeeks rattles or road noise (so far)! Rear seat room is enough far the average sized person. And the trunk space considering the vehicle size is fine. All cars cost way too much now but what you get for the money I really think when compared to other compact SUV's is a good value and the quality fit and finish (Made in Japan!) doesn"t feel cheap. I only gave the reliability rating 3 stars because this would be better answered in say 5 years. I am a first time Mazda owner and having commited to older (proven) technology in a changing turbulant world ( ICE engine not Hybrid or EV) I can only hope that this purchase plays out well.........Fingers crossed and happy motoring Zoom Zoom!
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$28,998
Est. $538/mo CarMax Schaumburg
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29196922
- VIN
- JM3KFBCM1S0802035
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax SchaumburgReviews
CarMax Schaumburg review
So far I have just observed the listing that the company has made. So more interaction will be needed to give a fair assessment.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Blue
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70280538
- VIN
- JM3KFBCMXP0158915
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax SchaumburgReviews
CarMax Schaumburg review
I was very pleased with my experience. I started at CarMax to "try on" several cars from several manufacturers. The salesman (Jack) was happy to oblige, despite it being cold and rainy. We walked the lot and I sat in ~20 cars. I went home and researched them some more, scheduled a few to test drive and came back on Jack's day off. This time, I worked with Brandon for a few test drives and discussed other vehicles at nearby CarMax locations. They found a vehicle that fit my requirements and transported it in for me to test drive. A few days later, I was back for the final test drive, loved the car and purchased it. Jack and Brandon kept good communication, weren't pushy and were a pleasure to work with. The business office was quick and explained the paperwork and processes effectively. Now, two weeks on, I'm very pleased with my car and experience. Thanks!
2023 Mazda CX-5 review
Best for handling, silky smooth and very refined. Great interior. Bullet proof reliability. Looks great. Mazda is now number one or safety. Surpassed Volvo. A very safe SUV for driving.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29056488
- VIN
- JM3KFBCM2S0695111
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax Joliet -





Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Vik Black
- Int. color
- Black/Sevilla Red
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 18-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with SHIFTRONIC
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 port/direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, tw
- Stock #
- P2001
- VIN
- 5NMMCDTC8RH000962
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Zeigler ChevroletReviews
Zeigler Chevrolet review
Ted was great it was a great experience this is my fifth car I bought from this place
2024 Genesis GV70 review
I absolutely love my GV70 Black Genisis The power of this 4cylinder turbo are amazing!! Love the large screen, great for older drivers too!!! The all around camera is great
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Tan
- Int. color
- BROWN
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 28763494
- VIN
- JM3KFBAY9S0580544
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax JolietReviews
2025 Mazda CX-5 review
We were loyal Subaru owners previously but were forced to look at other car makers when the 2025 forester had problems and recalls. The 2025 Mazda cx-5 was the most similar car, with no recalls or issues. We were pleased with the price and ready availability, made the jump from Subaru and haven't looked back. We owned several Subaru's previously and never had any issues with them - our most recent was fifteen years old. As retirees, the new safety features like the backup screen and warnings for blind spots are terrific. I just hope the Mazda proves to be as problem-free. Also, the Mazda CX-5 was highly rated by our insurance co. and lowered the cost of our insuring our new car.
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$31,998
Est. $593/mo CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Tan
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29196109
- VIN
- JM3KFBEMXS0808736
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy)Reviews
CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy) review
Bought a car on Wednesday night noticed the brake light was out. Told me to bring it back on Monday and they would take care of it. Did the oh I am in a cabin filter and even filled it up. Will shop again.
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$18,998
Est. $352/mo CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 70285238
- VIN
- JM3KE4DY1F0494578
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy)Reviews
CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy) review
Felt welcome as I entered the door. Staff was available and when I asked for the sales person that I had been communicating with, salesperson was waiting.
2015 Mazda CX-5 review
I love my 2015 Mazda CX5 Grand Touring. It is the first Mazda I have ever owned. Pleasantly surprised with it all around. Would recommend to anyone.
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$26,998
Est. $501/mo CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-27
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Turbo Gas
- Stock #
- 28748760
- VIN
- JM3KFBAY2P0257492
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy)Reviews
CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy) review
I had a good experience with Chris Price awesome sales man.. no pushy sales tactics.. he was honest and straight to the point.. I have bad credit.. and was turned down from alot of different dealers Marino, Hawk,Naperville and Shermans.. all said No.. but Carmax have me thre car I wanted wth super low miles.. Thanx Chris you a good guy 🤗
2023 Mazda CX-5 review
We looked at Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai, and Mazda and selected the Mazda CX-5. Honda and Toyota have priced themselves out of the middle-class budget, and Nissan’s Achilles Heel is their very brittle CVT transmission. Mazda is by far the best-looking, has AWD as standard equipment (a $1,200 to $1,500 option on other brands), easy-to-read gauges and dash, nice sound system, soft-touch dash and doors usually found only on “premium” brands, the best price, and the most beautiful factory color on the road: Soul Red. Our family has owned vehicles from all 5 companies, and have been totally happy with our problem-free CX-3. Anyone looking to buy a compact crossover should consider the CX-5.
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$30,998
Est. $575/mo CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- White
- Int. color
- GRAY
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 28935998
- VIN
- JM3KFBCMXS0752350
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy)Reviews
CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy) review
Took my mom to buy a pre-driven Camry. Car was there, clean, and ready to go. Test Drove, no issues. In and out fast, no games. No pressure. Good Sales Price. Worked with Mike Rubino, good experience! Would Highly Recommend Him!
2025 Mazda CX-5 review
"2025 MAZDA CX-5 TURBO SIGNATURE" FULL Suite of Safety Features/NAPA Leather/NAV/All LED Lights, etc ... Owned Mercedes-Benz vehicles for the past 25 years ... Quality and reliability have DECREASED SUBSTANTIALLY; while the price has INCREASED ASTRONOMICALLY ... Alongside my current Mercedes-Benz GLC Coupe, I purchased this 2025 MAZDA CX-5 Turbo Signature ... For under $45,000, I have a "Gem" that stand far above the MB in reliability, with Safety Features, Power, and Interior Quality EQUAL to the MB, with a price $25,000 LESS!
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$24,380
Est. $452/mo Fox Valley Volkswagen of St. Charles
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Platinum Gray Metallic
- Int. color
- Titan Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 8-Speed Automatic with Tiptronic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- L0330A
- VIN
- 3VVMB7AX6RM163862
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Fox Valley Volkswagen of St. CharlesReviews
Fox Valley Volkswagen of St. Charles review
Fernando Rodriguez was an amazing help in our search for a used car for my son. His follow up was great and went out of his way to get answers for all of our questions and concerns!! Thanks again Fernando!!!
2024 Volkswagen Tiguan review
30mpg avg with the longest and widest roof rail base for outdoor gear at a price that made sense. 2nd row middle seat folds down individually for skis and paddles. Remote start on the vw app is great for cooling the interior down on a 100 degree day from a distance. Rear seat door opening and leg room is huge great for elders to enter easily and for parents loading car seats.
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$26,998
Est. $501/mo CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy)
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Tan
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29196089
- VIN
- JM3KFBCM3S0802294
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy)Reviews
CarMax Hillside (Eisenhower Expy) review
This is the second car I've bought from CarMax (I also once sold a car). Every experience has been fantastic but this actually ranks as the best. Sales Consultant LaShinda John answered every question I had via email and then, for financing, by phone so that I walked in with the exact make, model and trim I wanted waiting for me to test drive and pre-approved for financing. The entire in-dealer experience took less than an hour and a half. Fantastic company and fantastic sales consultant.
2025 Mazda CX-5 review
Extremely pleased with the Mazda CX-5 Carbon Edition. Very comfortable on long drives. Everything in the cabin is convenient and easy to use. Averaged 29.5 mpg on our last trip. The interior is stylish as well as the exterior looking quite sporty.
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$30,998
Est. $575/mo CarMax Algonquin
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29196095
- VIN
- JM3KFBEM4S0806741
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
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$25,998
Est. $482/mo CarMax Algonquin
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Tan
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29175292
- VIN
- JM3KFBCL8S0678661
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Gray
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 24-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29196056
- VIN
- JM3KE4BY6G0809671
Features
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
Dealer
CarMax Oak LawnReviews
CarMax Oak Lawn review
Awesome Is the experience that I have had throughout all of my carbon experiences at car max We've bought 2 cars from them and sold them one car miss Sherman is an awesome sales rep very thorough very honest very respectful
2016 Mazda CX-5 review
I love my Mazda 2016 grand touring CX-5. It has been a very reliable vehicle. Cruise control operates perfectly. Great Bose sound system. I wish it got better gas mileage. Not impressed with the navigation system! I am not happy at all with the exterior paint or interior carpeting!
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$27,998
Est. $519/mo CarMax Oak Lawn
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Tan
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 26-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Gas
- Stock #
- 29266840
- VIN
- JM3KFBCM5S0803785
Features
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax Oak LawnReviews
CarMax Oak Lawn review
The process was very thorough. Everyone was friendly and helpful. My sales associate Hassan was wonderful! Made sure my visit was perfect from the moment I walked in the doors to the moment I drove off.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Graphite Blue
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-26
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- AN4509A
- VIN
- JN8AS5MVXCW419285
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Arlington NissanReviews
Arlington Nissan review
Service guys are always helpful. Hassle free and get work completed in timely manner. Guys there are always friendly. Had oil change and rear brake pads on son's car completed. Good work and fair price.
2012 Nissan Rogue review
I have it for 3 years runs good keep. Maintenance up on it. It is a good running car. Love it. Smooth running suv. Family car.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Magnetic Gray Metallic
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 22-29
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- 6-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- 2.5L I4 16V MPFI DOHC
- Stock #
- 110756
- VIN
- JTMRFREV0FD110756
Features
- Convenience
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
Dealer
Nelson AutomotiveReviews
Nelson Automotive review
Excellent customer service from start to finish. They answered all of my questions patiently and made the whole car-buying process easy and stress-free. I ended up buying a car at a great deal and had a really good experience overall. Everyone was professional, helpful, and honest. I definitely recommend this dealership to anyone looking for a vehicle!”
2015 Toyota RAV4 review
Bought used in 2018. Car has been incredibly reliable. Besides one brake job, one set of tires, and one battery I have not done anything except oil changes. Not even a taillight.
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$25,412
Est. $471/mo Napleton Ford of Oak Lawn
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Space White Metallic
- Int. color
- Black Onyx
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- Single-Speed Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- OFP10478
- VIN
- 3FMTK1SS6PMA11633
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Napleton Ford of Oak LawnReviews
Napleton Ford of Oak Lawn review
While traveling from out if state,we had a vehicle breakdown. At that time/day, all repair shops were closed. So taking a gamble we dropped the car off at Napleton Ford of Oaklawn. The techs at Napleton jumped on our issue right away and worked hard to help a family stranded on the road. We were back up and running in just a few days. Thank you Napleton Ford!!
2023 Ford Mustang Mach-E review
My first EV car. Not sure if I love this car or the fact that it is an EV. What makes this a bit different from a Tesla is that it still reminds you of a regular car in terms of gear shifting controls and displays. My car is a premium trim, dual motor and long range battery extension, so if you get a lower trim, the experience might be slightly different.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Denim Blue Metallic
- Int. color
- Blond
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 23-30
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- 2L I-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, intercool
- Stock #
- PV3041
- VIN
- YV4M12RM3T1446011
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Cooled Seats
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Navigation System
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- Satellite Radio
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rain Sensing Wipers
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
McGrath Volvo Cars BarringtonReviews
McGrath Volvo Cars Barrington review
I bought a car from Alan and my experience was really good I highly recommend buying your next car here at McGrath Volvo in Barrington.
2026 Volvo XC60 review
We just leased our third XC60 having previously leased a 2021 and a 2024. We find the 2026 similar with some improvements in the interior material and I believe a bit better performance than our 2024. Being a mild hybrid the mileage is acceptable as is acceleration. Volvo has the most comfortable seats for sure.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Crystal White Pearl
- Int. color
- Gray
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 25-32
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Lineartronic CVT
- Engine
- 2.5L H-4 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, regular
- Stock #
- WUSK494A
- VIN
- JF2SLDHC5SH479317
Features
- Convenience
- Adaptive Cruise Control
- Heated Seats
- Keyless Entry
- Keyless Start
- Power Liftgate
- Remote Start
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- HomeLink
- Premium Sound System
- USB Port
- WiFi Hotspot
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Sunroof/Moonroof
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Brake Assist
- LED Headlights
- Lane Departure Warning
- Rear Cross Traffic Alert
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
Dealer
Tasca Chevrolet WheelingReviews
Tasca Chevrolet Wheeling review
Friendly and found a problem which was covered under my extended warranty. Someone drove me home and brought me back once the car was finished. Only negative was it took more hours than planned.
2025 Subaru Forester review
My Forester is roomy enough for me and several passengers, yet small enough to park easily. It’s reliable, responsive, and I get 35 mpg. The safety features are excellent.
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Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Black
- Int. color
- BLACK
- Drivetrain
- Four-wheel Drive
- Fuel type
- Electric
- Transmission
- Automatic
- Engine
- Electric
- Stock #
- 29202479
- VIN
- JN1CF0BBXRM734521
Features
- Convenience
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Navigation System
- Entertainment
- Android Auto®
- Apple CarPlay®
- Bluetooth®
- Satellite Radio
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Safety
- Backup Camera
- Blind Spot Monitor
- Lane Departure Warning
- Seating
- Memory Seat
Dealer
CarMax Springfield MOReviews
2024 Nissan ARIYA review
Admittedly, have not had this vehicle for very long, but I am very impressed. And I am difficult to impress. Previous vehicle was an ‘18 RAM 1500 with V8 Hemi. It was fun, powerful, loud, and I enjoyed sitting up high. Two weeks in the Ariya, and I don’t miss it. I have the AWD version, and this thing moves at the frequency I think. I mean, you see a space in traffic you want to get to, check blind spots and BAM, you’re there. Handling is crisp and tight, remaining so at highway speeds. Bumps handled like a luxury mobile of 2X the cost. Cabin is quiet, spacious, and does not feel cheap. Tons of features, power everything. Screen bootup is rapid and has my tunes going by the time I’m buckled in and have my glasses switched to my sunglasses. Heads up display tells everything I need, and well positioned. Charging so far has not been an issue in the least. Installed a ChargePoint charger in my garage, and it’s easily setup and controlled through their app, so it charges on schedule according to my utility provider’s preferred charge time, giving me a break on the electricity used to charge it. All told, I’ve spent $6 over 2 weeks and 500 miles. Truck would have cost me a tank, or 30 gallons of gas for same distance.
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$9,450
Est. $175/mo Nebraska Motors LLC
Check Availability Vehicle Information
- Ext. color
- Silver
- Int. color
- Black
- Drivetrain
- All-wheel Drive
- MPG
- 19-24
- Fuel type
- Gasoline
- Transmission
- Auto, 7-Spd Touch Shift
- Engine
- 3.5L V-6 direct injection, DOHC, variable valve control, premium
- Stock #
- G109170
- VIN
- WDCGG8JB9DG109170
Features
- Convenience
- Keyless Entry
- Power Liftgate
- Entertainment
- Bluetooth®
- CD Player
- Exterior
- Alloy Wheels
- Roof Rack
- Safety
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- Brake Assist
- Stability Control
- Seating
- Leather Seats
- Memory Seat
Dealer
Nebraska Motors LLCReviews
Nebraska Motors LLC review
My wife and I went in to buy a vehicle for and ended up getting 2 vehicles since it was time for me to trade in too. Great job Nebraska Motors.
2013 Mercedes-Benz GLK-Class review
i am the recent second owner from a family member that purchased new in 2013 and put 47k miles over 9 years. it is a comfortable& powerful. it has an attractive muscular design unlike all its competitors of its age as well as most now. not everyone wants a vehicle that is so similarly rounded as most the others. no wonder MB designed a boxier suv in the GLB. though the GLB is a turbo 4cyl fwd, making it less desirable imo.